Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'commonly': 0.09; 'unicode,': 0.09; 'guys,': 0.16; 'url:iso': 0.16; 'alex': 0.17; 'byte': 0.17; 'versions': 0.20; 'seems': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'set.': 0.27; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'selection': 0.29; 'included': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'impression': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; '(with': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'received:co.za': 0.37; 'received:za': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'end': 0.40; 'french': 0.64; 'concerns': 0.65; 'cater': 0.84; 'received:196.28': 0.84 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:43:44 +0200 From: Alex Strickland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Article on the future of Python References: <5062ad83$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <693ac61b-b1d3-4192-9e50-5166fd119278@googlegroups.com> <447851a9-bc63-4711-a4e6-bff565e28f1f@googlegroups.com> <2b2d20f5-2807-4a61-b284-8075e900db22@googlegroups.com> <50641d6d$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <50641d6d$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348743029 news.xs4all.nl 6889 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57931 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30287 Hi >> Sorry guys, I'm "only" able to see this (with the Python versions an end >> user can download): > > [snip timeit results] > > While you have been all doom and gloom and negativity that Python has > "destroyed" Unicode, I thought that jmf's concerns were solely concerned with the selection of latin1 as the 1 byte set. My impression was that if some set of characters was chosen that included all characters commonly used in French then all would be well with the world. But now I'm confused because latin1 seems to cater for French quite well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1 -- Regards Alex