Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'c++,': 0.07; 'perl,': 0.07; 'command-line': 0.09; 'proficient': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'gui': 0.11; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'fingerprint:': 0.16; "he'll": 0.16; 'stuff.': 0.16; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'stick': 0.22; 'task': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'environment': 0.29; 'editors': 0.29; 'hacker': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'primary': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'switch': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'doubt': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'programming.': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'test': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'skip:4 10': 0.37; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'content- disposition:inline': 0.60; "you've": 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'stay': 0.61; 'hardcore': 0.84; 'received:80.229': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'stood': 0.93 X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:15:45 +0000 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Mail-Followup-To: python-list@python.org References: <9eecde1c-a8b1-473c-bbee-eebd069bf2b1@y5g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9eecde1c-a8b1-473c-bbee-eebd069bf2b1@y5g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> x-operating-system: OpenBSD 5.2 amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356876956 news.xs4all.nl 6916 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60038 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35802 * Yuvraj Sharma [2012-12-28 01:37:23 -0800]: > Use IDLE > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > The OP is already a proficient C, C++, perl, ... hacker using console based tools and hardcore UNIX editors like vi(1) - I doubt he'll stay with IDLE for very long - once you've got accustomed to the UNIX environment and the command-line it's difficult and undesirable, in my experience, to switch to GUI stuff. Stick with what you've been using for the last couple of decades. These tools have stood the test of time for a good reason: they're powerful, efficient and made for the task of programming. Jamie -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38