Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'argument': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'fixes': 0.05; 'ignored': 0.05; 'properly.': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'unicode,': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; 'languages.': 0.15; '100,': 0.16; '3.2.': 0.16; '3.3.': 0.16; 'argument.': 0.16; 'bugs.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'say.': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'exists': 0.17; 'replacing': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'all,': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; 'included': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'handle': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'faster': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'takes': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'times': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'selling': 0.64; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'insane': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Article on the future of Python Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:24:11 -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348701881 news.xs4all.nl 6975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39516 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30247 On 9/26/2012 8:19 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > You are always selling the same argument. Because you keep repeating the same insane argument against 3.3. > Py3.3 is the only computer language I'm aware of which > is maltreating Unicode in such a way. You have it backwards. 3.3 fixes maltreatment of unicode, such as also exists in other languages. re will also run better with 3.3. You have not shown any new bugs. Many other languages do not handle extended plane characters properly. > After all, if replacing a Nabla operator in a string take > 10 times more times in Py33 than in Python32, it takes 10 > times more . There is nothing more to say. On the contrary, there is lots more to say. You have picked out the one thing that 3.3 does not do as well and ignored all the things 3.3 does better. I and others have already explained many of them. Included is that fact that 3.3 does one operation 10, 100, 1000,... times faster than 3.2. -- Terry Jan Reedy