Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'binary': 0.07; 'buildbot': 0.07; 'dev': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'windows,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:ever': 0.16; 'trivially': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'work,': 0.20; 'programming': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'generally': 0.29; 'patch': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'worked': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'performance': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'christian': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'reviewed': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'different': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; './configure': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:26:46 +0100 References: <6e0bbc6b-9435-4a4b-8840-8a46cc4e0cc5@googlegroups.com> <5267CB8E.1010504@timgolden.me.uk> <5268670a$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-201-160.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 In-Reply-To: <5268670a$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382603230 news.xs4all.nl 15873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33481 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57431 On 24/10/2013 01:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:27:29 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> I confess I don't understand how *nix people endure having to compile >> code instead of having a binary install. > > Because it's trivially easy under Unix? Three commands: > > ./configure > make > make install > > will generally do the job. Unless it doesn't work, in which case it's a > world of pain. But that's no different from Windows, except that somebody > else has already worked through the pain for you. > Precisely my point. I suspect being a Python core dev must do wonders for the moral fibre. Your pristine, fully reviewed patch improves performance by 10,000% and works wonderfully except on buildbot xyz and has to be reverted. How do they do it? -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence