Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '(also': 0.16; '(do': 0.16; '1):': 0.16; 'brackets,': 0.16; 'claims,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'stuff,': 0.16; 'substantiate': 0.16; 'this).': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'why.': 0.17; 'obviously': 0.18; 'code.': 0.20; 'not,': 0.21; 'supposed': 0.21; 'combination': 0.22; 'work,': 0.22; 'statement': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'select': 0.26; 'coding': 0.27; 'done.': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'you?': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'running': 0.32; 'asked': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'knowledge': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'acceptable': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'bad': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'claim': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'results': 0.65; 'ago.': 0.66; 'user,': 0.69; 'day': 0.73; 'tangible': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Article on the future of Python Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:08:44 +0100 References: <5062ad83$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <693ac61b-b1d3-4192-9e50-5166fd119278@googlegroups.com> <447851a9-bc63-4711-a4e6-bff565e28f1f@googlegroups.com> <2b2d20f5-2807-4a61-b284-8075e900db22@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-9-148.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 In-Reply-To: <2b2d20f5-2807-4a61-b284-8075e900db22@googlegroups.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120926-0, 26/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348672119 news.xs4all.nl 6940 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41897 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30211 On 26/09/2012 15:50, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > I should add that I have not the knowledge to dive > in the Python code. But I "see" what has been done. How? > As I have a very good understanding of all this > coding of characters stuff, I can just pick up > - in fact select characters or combination > of characters - which I supspect to be problematic > and I see the results. Have you run the Python benchmarks yet, as people have more trust in something tangible than a claim that "I see the results"? You were asked to do this one month ago. If yes please publish your results. If no why not, if your claims were correct running the benchmarks would obviously support you? > > Not only this, I can select characters, I know > a user is supposed to use or will use eg. a specific > scrit/language, a typographical work, ... > (Do not ask how and why, I know this). Please state how and why. > > I'm not interesting in the other languages or in > unicode therory (also I not bad on this level). Please prove your statement in brackets, nothing less is acceptable if you're making claims, you need to substantiate them. > > I just see the results and the facts. For an end > user, this is the only thing that counts. The modern day Pinball Wizard? Or a physic? Or what? > > jmf > #pseudo code for _ in range(-inf, +inf, 1): print(FUD) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.