Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:209.85.219': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '>>': 0.16; '3.3,': 0.16; 'compliant,': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'to:name:python list': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'example': 0.22; 'comparing': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'non': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'page.': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'becomes': 0.33; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'european': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'show': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'compliant': 0.68; 'subject:money': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=RsvPC7M29IjXxu2yCd+chjqh33RBn8+BqrFNGnBijFU=; b=hNpn7Mb4Na2EdVgMfYOgl6/j9OnqrbZOWNOBqZNPGJssaKrQkveilWu6l24u5gyjsg hGcD9dGeslgFxHI9yNsHWBkP6sG+piqI/8hEoxvw+bMai0MrPyICRQhlrrwXNTdiFmAy ZOvtrQ2erpedm2Wbzaf1D1kj3GKgJ6/+fjGw+KqudtuHL4ye+iPtVKS6xVjPxABM67aN c8apMNZi55JSlB88nkUJST9xFYE4dmxKk2jDebiPethn8dbl6pNbTcewVDIT43RRBOmg //jZ8tDbVI+ngC+x1WKtgb8Wj6NC8osQS8Z7Td8W4c3ofLaiiM6lyIPscROp9X0xglPT /e9w== X-Received: by 10.182.129.129 with SMTP id nw1mr1319680obb.100.1367975487505; Tue, 07 May 2013 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.129.129 with SMTP id nw1mr1319678obb.100.1367975487409; Tue, 07 May 2013 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5186aeb6$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 18:11:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers From: Benjamin Kaplan To: Python List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011765b7fd29ac04dc2a9c4d X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnhXQ30Y9jTxf0ct4TnwyFVUpv9OZop1YylHFshQQpRAQSNt21b9qDuFnijDWe7w+WTC2SDDGXR4NzVJfD7YA4+v9mHke6A++iGkV6y97ZvoX04dATQvpmxMjXAoZFNdQ08oUVo2HdvswYNixpDffHRRqom6g== X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mpv1.tis.cwru.edu) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 55 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367975873 news.xs4all.nl 15972 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35692 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44924 --089e011765b7fd29ac04dc2a9c4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On May 7, 2013 5:42 PM, "Neil Hodgson" wrote: > > jmfauth: > >> 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, >> (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) >> ... > > > This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing performance, not compliance. > > Please show an example where Python 3.3 is not compliant with Unicode. > > Neil > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list It's violating page 1+1j of the Unicode spec, where it says precisely how long each operation is allowed to take. Only wise people can see that page. --089e011765b7fd29ac04dc2a9c4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On May 7, 2013 5:42 PM, "Neil Hodgson" <nhodgson@iinet.net.au> wrote:
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> jmfauth:
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>> 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant,
>> (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !)
>> ...
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing= performance, not compliance.
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please show an example where Python 3.3 is not compliant = with Unicode.
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Neil
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> http:/= /mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

It's violating page 1+1j of the Unicode spec, where it s= ays precisely how long each operation is allowed to take. Only wise people = can see that page.

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