Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'needless': 0.16; 'received:69.93': 0.16; 'utc': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'skip': 0.24; 'skip:l 30': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'noticed': 0.34; 'skip:d 20': 0.34; 'anybody': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:173': 0.61; 'different': 0.65; 'brain': 0.68; 'glance': 0.84; 'same,': 0.91 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:56:50 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Confused about timezones References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:38708 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382565146 news.xs4all.nl 15988 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46398 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57389 On 10/23/2013 12:00 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > >> --> LOCAL_TZ.localize(dt1).utcoffset() >> datetime.timedelta(-1, 68400) >> --> LOCAL_TZ.localize(dt2).utcoffset() >> datetime.timedelta(-1, 64800) >> >> Why is the UTC offset the same for both datetime objects despite the >> presence/absence of Daylight Savings? > > Brain freeze! A quick glance told me they were the same, when they > actually are different (68400, 64800). Sorry for the needless noise. Don't feel too bad, doesn't look like anybody else noticed either! ;) -- ~Ethan~