Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.038 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.01; 'one?': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'php.': 0.07; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; '8-bit': 0.16; 'massively': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'which,': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'received:10.0.1': 0.19; 'memory': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'to:name:python- list@python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'tried': 0.27; 'words': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'operations.': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'there': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'received:17': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'name': 0.63; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'direct': 0.67; 'europe': 0.67; 'smith': 0.68; 'header:In-reply- to:1': 0.84; 'subject:money': 0.84; 'system),': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91; 'baby': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-05-07_09:2013-05-07, 2013-05-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1305070208 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 17:02:54 -0400 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <5186af75$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> To: "python-list@python.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: William Ray Wing X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367964195 news.xs4all.nl 15865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56814 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44908 On May 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Martijn Lievaart wrote: > On Sun, 05 May 2013 17:07:41 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: >=20 >> There *are* programming languages worse than PHP. Have you ever = tried >> britescript? >=20 > Have you tried MUMPS? :-) >=20 > M4 >=20 Which one? The original MUMPS (Massachusetts General Hospital Utility = Multi-Programming System), or the one that came out of Europe in the = '90s and stole the MUMPS name (MUltifrontal Massively Parallel sparse = direct Solver)? I used both the original and its baby brother FOCAL which, considering = that they ran on DEC PDP-7 (MUMPS) and DEC PDP-8 (FOCAL) systems with as = little as 4k words of 18-bit memory on the PDP-7 and 8-bit memory on the = PDP-8 is pretty spectacular. They should be forgiven for a somewhat = constrained list of key words and operations.=20 -Bill=