Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.x-privat.org!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'ide': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; '(like': 0.15; 'dec': 0.15; 'sat,': 0.15; 'value.': 0.15; "(it's": 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'ides': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'processor': 0.17; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'example': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'plain': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'file': 0.32; 'maintains': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'wanted': 0.36; 'others.': 0.36; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'perfect': 0.63; 'mother': 0.65; 'useful.': 0.65; 'everything.': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6BTJapeEaNBS/mvmTfaR7iDN+EdnHlofGJU2ORXG8mY=; b=niX6CPM4jxhN6p0rLVI72vcS41gVFVtfn0XmMSqyC6AVOM8oy9EqCQHjc+9ve6KzIE CZoTdXsTHCtg1voD9qRNVqUeOhEWbJoBdaCMgUJsNHbGSLGLeJCqMowzkjMC6VIj0/FV HpH0qjyACHlZuAdJa3vsZwX3LtF4wy1paQo2aL36lTr5XVoKXu2B3CV1bxPKnVO87z2E NmDZ4OXeQlbAfC3X4OnrL3wXXmRJdyDTNs1x4VL2xg5d+s46weEv79qgQeRE4egtPbdi JpPOg8984BQGCkxU1wAzNgt8I/n902lKuE0/YcI/KxBLCNCszQs0kb/BruKEVRokjENw f6uA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121229020254.GA15363@Kubrick> References: <20121229020254.GA15363@Kubrick> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:40:31 +1100 Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356763240 news.xs4all.nl 6924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37689 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35742 On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Westley Mart=EDnez wr= ote: > I only use vim for everything. IDEs just seem to get in my way. I've just (like ten minutes ago) come across a perfect example of what makes an IDE useful. My mother maintains a collection of documents (book indexes, historical records, catalogs of items the society owns, etc) in a word processor called DeScribe. She just wanted to add a plain text file to the collection, such that she can search it for a text string (it's an OCR transcription of an old book, I think), and put it into DeScribe even though it doesn't need any of its facilities, just so it'd be there with all her others. An IDE is the right thing for her. For me, though, it's no value. ChrisA