Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? 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Yeah, we had a phone from then (granted, I don't remember much >> of 1986, but we had the same handsets in the 1990s), and it could run >> out of battery and lose its phone book. > > > He said landlines. A typical handset would have no battery as it's powere= d > from the line. And does not have need a memory to function. Nor would it > suffer from lack of signal. Or credit (if you'd paid the last bill). Or g= et > lost (as it's tethered to the socket). > > Very clunky technology but it was solid! It only did one thing but it did= it > incredibly well. Yes, I was talking about landlines. It did have a battery, and it did have a phone book. (And it did get lost, too, but that's because we had a lot of papers and stuff in that corner of the kitchen. We knew it was SOMEWHERE in the pile, but can you find it before the caller gives up?) And it actually suffered from lack of signal more often than you might think. We called them "outages", and they were the phone system's equivalent to power blackouts. Usually from the same cause, too - a car crashed into a pole somewhere and snapped the wires. The only issue I might have about this is whether it dated back to 1986. I asked my mother, and she couldn't remember quite when they came out. Certainly they were around in the early 1990s, and they weren't new then, so they can't be more than a couple years off the 30-years-ago estimate. Can you blame me if I take "30 years ago" and answer it from 28? :) ChrisA