Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.nosignal.org!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'vi,': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'do,': 0.15; 'dec': 0.15; 'desktop.': 0.16; 'gained': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'ides': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'hacking': 0.17; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'windows': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'perl': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'switch': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'guys': 0.33; 'me?': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'machines': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'love': 0.63; 'alike': 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5I2ndps9q6u84zv+/4htdPuAh9hVDaMhf4LaOyHXkes=; b=g7xrHdgUeT5FVFFeDQ6v62FqQacrYPT93BPBK29JCFDGZCy05Z1J8U8gc27TIspok2 sP9PNRAxNT8DQjFNBOVRwlJKeg0fWqlOk8j4oCN5S5dzkGmTsXXeHezbOhtGCEk0PpEt reUwIjuEXR/HukyLpX/0lAmkWJhXYoH/9CWHqwn36DKlPCZ5KG59MbI5I25pOY9v6pnf zaceNpIEWGfLE4o2IOaUjfAjOLN7wC315uOtpZ25U90Kg3AIeLyTJke6tHN2zHCKwASz yNBkM3LJ56poIiYjL5mp1PTBYJzmeTDzw3NWSQg2/eIjvZKvBPoCrmU0WIleHuC2pFzJ 7SBA== X-Received: by 10.66.85.70 with SMTP id f6mr94543703paz.76.1356746579278; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:02:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:02:55 -0800 From: Westley =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356746581 news.xs4all.nl 6862 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41644 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35729 On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:01:16PM -0800, mogul wrote: > 'Aloha! > > I'm new to python, got 10-20 years perl and C experience, all gained on unix alike machines hacking happily in vi, and later on in vim. > > Now it's python, and currently mainly on my kubuntu desktop. > > Do I really need a real IDE, as the windows guys around me say I do, or will vim, git, make and other standalone tools make it the next 20 years too for me? > > Oh, by the way, after 7 days I'm completely in love with this python thing. I should have made the switch much earlier! > > /mogul %-) I only use vim for everything. IDEs just seem to get in my way.