Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'essentially': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'binary': 0.07; 'compiler': 0.07; 'source.': 0.07; 'windows,': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'abi': 0.16; 'from:addr:timgolden.me.uk': 0.16; 'from:name:tim golden': 0.16; 'message-id:@timgolden.me.uk': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86.74': 0.16; 'received:smtp.webfaction.com': 0.16; 'received:webfaction.com': 0.16; 'subject:ever': 0.16; 'tjg': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'received:192.168.100': 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'shown': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'unix': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'really,': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'building': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'even': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'lack': 0.78; 'from:addr:mail': 0.83; 'now...': 0.84; 'wheel': 0.84; 'am.': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'treatment': 0.95; 'kit': 0.97 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:01:10 +0100 From: Tim Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Python Subject: Re: Will Python 3.x ever become the actual standard? References: <6e0bbc6b-9435-4a4b-8840-8a46cc4e0cc5@googlegroups.com> <5267CB8E.1010504@timgolden.me.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382536873 news.xs4all.nl 15956 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40282 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57364 On 23/10/2013 14:52, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> Thankfully I am. I confess I don't understand how *nix people endure having >> to compile code instead of having a binary install. To me it's like going >> to the garage to buy a new car, being shown the parts and the tool kit and >> being told to get on with it. Perhaps it's a case of second class treatment >> for users of a second class OS? Ducks and runs for cover :) > > And we can't understand how you can put up without source. :-) Also, > Unix isn't one platform like Windows, ABI incompatibility and all. > > Really, for most things these days it's just > > pip install foo Disregarding Mark's tongue-in-cheek rhetoric for now... perhaps you didn't realise that, on Windows, you can't pip install a binary (that's a problem the new wheel format is solving). And, even if you have the correct compiler toolchain, building more complex packages from source can be daunting, essentially because of the lack of standard source layout on Windows. TJG