Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'editor.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'mostly': 0.14; 'sections': 0.14; 'bump': 0.16; 'capability.': 0.16; 'from:addr:pobox.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:skip': 0.16; 'log.': 0.16; 'menu.': 0.16; 'refactoring': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'code.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; "aren't": 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'except': 0.35; 'etc': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'feedback': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'useful.': 0.68; 'integrated': 0.69; 'subject:tool': 0.84; 'sitting': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+e+88PrO8wTdGf415brubR04cP6XT2JGo0OC+ii3Qes=; b=bEzmZk/cIzGbhSSVo4968+VbMV09h1bOE9NRmHK3DFEi9ztlM0yhVIFBGYFDh+vBIN n3Fr8ZwBALoGc72ihmLaWx9+RMOCVK22qrMy//d/AoYYyRJ4mZ8Gg37pPREvlGhDIvQa wzjA4pa1shCHa0+B1oi0byOZ/iyAOq3UqL2KEOnveJICR+LbqmHqXglc6qPj8t7K3FDd ZylSMNf1XCLtLLnoM3sc55JG6oS2QJA8cFnTaMYOv3r5O4QGDb7sNHe45Pwq+ZVaoiIm 6J5JzEHbV7NlzPJWXu3TIdn4SfS0M+r+XXJv41dDfOs3axaqEli+LSnHpK8BZburECmo p2Xg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.20.4 with SMTP id j4mr25152858ige.13.1410810286185; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: skip.montanaro@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:44:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ItGRTm7OnuX_C6q78rdrm9BgAcY Subject: PyCharm refactoring tool? From: Skip Montanaro To: Python Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd75bb6f4232a05031fdd76 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1410810288 news.xs4all.nl 2868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58416 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:77901 --047d7bd75bb6f4232a05031fdd76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I started up an instance of PyCharm last Friday. It's mostly just been sitting there like a bump on a log. I set things up to use Emacs as my editor. It seems most of its functionality won't be all that useful. Most of my work is on libraries/platforms - stuff which is not runnable in isolation, so the Run menu doesn't look all that useful. I have git, etc integrated into my Emacs environment, so don't need the VCS menu. Most everything else looks fairly genertic. Except the Refactor menu. Before I try to do much/anything with it, I thought I would solicit feedback on its capability. Does it work as intended? I read through the PyCharm help sections on refactoring. It seems to describe a number of code refactorings which aren't available for Python code. For example, I don't see an "invert boolean" refactoring. How useful is PyCharm's refactoring subsystem? Thx, Skip --047d7bd75bb6f4232a05031fdd76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I started up an instance of PyCharm last Friday. It's = mostly just been sitting there like a bump on a log. I set things up to use= Emacs as my editor. It seems most of its functionality won't be all th= at useful. Most of my work is on libraries/platforms - stuff which is not r= unnable in isolation, so the Run menu doesn't look all that useful. I h= ave git, etc integrated into my Emacs environment, so don't need the VC= S menu. Most everything else looks fairly genertic.

Exce= pt the Refactor menu. Before I try to do much/anything with it, I thought I= would solicit feedback on its capability. Does it work as intended? I read= through the PyCharm help sections on refactoring. It seems to describe a n= umber of code refactorings which aren't available for Python code. For = example, I don't see an "invert boolean" refactoring.

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