Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.134.4.91.MISMATCH!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:error': 0.03; 'dynamically': 0.07; 'statically': 0.07; 'exercising': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; "people's": 0.09; 'run,': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'typed': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'key?': 0.16; 'parentheses': 0.16; 'porting': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'superfluous': 0.16; 'variable.': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'typing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'conjunction': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'weeks': 0.32; 'programmers': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'test': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "i'll": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'effort': 0.37; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'reaching': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'enjoy': 0.71; 'subject:First': 0.74; './configure': 0.84; 'aspect.': 0.84; 'whereas': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dP9EDlL/LV1F+aF4nmY1ByfRmyFMdF8oWUS0Gjaz+9A=; b=R7vKmJQx5RmFKLbhZTJnWfjguZkFF3tXJk1u1S5V4ywIxOlEDczlGLaEcRBEDLFUDe Mz6Lz9x9DuJ4/Anp8EOpfduj972iRHzbcJAo41cVjtoO/c7U4SVx3yi9xEQA8cU9BZCz vNsxKvDBOMc656P8ESUHsdFBfocIR5i1N5U1D5hOyMvsaEKZiYpQzAacoxFAA3Rr8ake 0pXRv/0FR7V2RtEVmLbc4ougzl4Be6bgPsRGtaRs9YeFojDzPc6KedTtSIgyHSQh0cTi omco2nIHnJIM2Eqz20EZG53Wx6YdPAE4Vj5eTiU2SCyHkzKJyKXKLBf/LzT9udwi47Qd 3zPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.139.212 with SMTP id f20mr620245vcu.28.1367918389928; Tue, 07 May 2013 02:19:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <24c5856e-a30a-41bd-aa4a-0e594734e1f8@googlegroups.com> <163bd508-f225-4b4d-8173-1e070c5d5aad@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 19:19:49 +1000 Subject: Re: First python program, syntax error in while loop From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367918393 news.xs4all.nl 15863 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44877 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 07/05/2013 01:17, alex23 wrote: >> >> On May 6, 10:37 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> One of these days I'll work out why some people insist on using >>> superfluous parentheses in Python code. Could it be that they enjoy >>> exercising their fingers by reaching for the shift key in conjunction >>> with the 9 or 0 key? >> >> >> One of these days I'll work out why some programmers consider typing >> to be "effort". >> > > I think it's very important to consider this aspect. E.g. any one using > dynamically typed languages has to put in more effort as they should be > typing up their test code, whereas people using statically typed languages > can simply head down to the pub once their code has compiled. And those who are porting other people's code to a new platform have weeks of work just to get ./configure to run, but after that it's smooth... Everything is variable. ChrisA