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On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:08:44 -0400, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> declaimed
the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> In this case, however, I have no problem with the extra parens.  Look at 
> these two statements:
> 
> >> while (number != guess) and (tries < 5):
> >> while number != guess and tries < 5:
> 
> They have the same meaning.  To correctly interpret the second one, you 
> need to know that != and < bind tighter than "and". One could say that 
> you should know that, and maybe you would be right.
>
	If there were a chance of confusion, I'd probably have written it

	while (number != guess
			and tries < 5) :

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