Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Encapsulation in Python Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:25:16 +1100 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <56E17985.7060002@benmezger.nl> <6984dafc-fffd-4d46-a173-421bb5c142d2@googlegroups.com> <4ddc3696-3f71-4598-98a6-929267f51fb9@googlegroups.com> <56e53cd3$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1376c684-2e7f-417a-9683-e47789f019fe@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 7d6xnEtGPk71IA/vgR0mFAW8nxJKA3Stj6enJsyP7BTw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'ignored': 0.05; 'computing,': 0.07; 'repeated': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'admins': 0.09; 'it;': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'ignore': 0.14; '2016': 0.16; 'correctly,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'grounds': 0.16; 'included)': 0.16; 'publish,': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'something.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'community,': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'saying': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'developers': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'regular': 0.29; 'ago': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'creating': 0.30; '15,': 0.30; 'ourselves': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; "he's": 0.33; 'him.': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'knowledge': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'actions': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'personal': 0.63; 'mar': 0.65; 'python-list': 0.66; 'sole': 0.76; 'atmosphere': 0.84; 'back?': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'hostile': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'colour': 0.91; 'subject:skip:E 10': 0.96; 'mr.': 0.99 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=fcvqQWlpuILtJ3fBUjpj/r+m5BXGt/Cg/iJZoIwULPQ=; b=Dkqa+1FXyKC/My3YfsPhmE32oJ2u01R5EcbfWC2N4MpMqsRjCUsYqnAi0x0oQlbgk6 YyQ4PVQoo+GYtrFqQJUy/q/CLqG/7kaa/SZw/qBtEnKz10aK5hYAfk4S5jxZeVonQpBe gsR8HWRXD+Dm87wVST96KLFhpNwcde74TAVwBQG/fGR0m9e4gOizwPZ42221MN2QNmz3 n7f+gYV3PkPlkeUBRkbfdpI9yxRbggrtNwvPIrsRtWkOTx6530XCw1pke74BQLhjDPgL fHUsQ6hxZ8olvZCeLuIhFQ7j/2SeiYPXjM354qso8PCH+tII7mc0i9va8FqC+CUD6NiG +RTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=fcvqQWlpuILtJ3fBUjpj/r+m5BXGt/Cg/iJZoIwULPQ=; b=idNHw1lIqzVQJfKVyNg0IU4f8VpdwK+6JnWJBzdvkMKTCOv+6AZYpgXfmLjB+zGvq5 H4EUt1Xi4WhVa/FP9qUJhwryxYlqiSUp8+NaQao1QiL2td/qoiYeLQYr9lxoKBhPy9aO Ib/Oe5UA41stTYCUpl5S+6hpD6h/9Be8s4gVW5QP+S5idOYqKs0HTgvB2EVPO9eNuL8X G/WCfAixL1i5OEvx3VgL1QqLo6/1YkQs5V0AJ21+fHF4EFJ9vf8Vt27FQQ/PUsR3H48b 46XZxHrXxhH2vbfNj26Q3F+sZfsG7d/gho4FU6WLUGg+PL3493x9aPtc/+iopUcq+n3H T5qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJj9rMGw6ZlTY5p2itzBofzJRn+qa79o8+NTSf/AAl29MUjjDNz7uU+rZmho3cBFLaODJDWw+BVw2oxpg== X-Received: by 10.107.47.163 with SMTP id v35mr25066194iov.19.1458001516751; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:25:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104881 On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:17 AM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote: > On 03/14/2016 05:19 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 14/03/2016 22:40, BartC wrote: >> > [...a polite and reasonable comment...] >> >> Drivel. Any establised member of this community, or any other >> community for that matter, will always publish, unless, like the RUE, >> they've got something to hide. So you're just a chicken. Where do >> you buy the paint from for the streaks down your back? Just in case >> you can't guess it is yellow. I'll state the colour just in case >> your knowledge of colours is the same as your so called knowledge of >> computing, something of which I'm far from persuaded, on the grounds >> that speed simply is not the sole criteria for a language. > > How much longer is the community going to ignore this nastiness? > These repeated vitriolic personal attacks are creating a poisonous > and hostile atmosphere that I and I'm sure many others don't want > to be exposed to when reading this group. The community has not ignored it; several people (myself included) have told Mark off in public for what he's been saying lately. > If I recall correctly, Mr. Lawrence was ejected from the developers > list a few years ago for the same kind of offensive behavior. This requires that the list admins do something. Regular members like ourselves can't ban him. However, Mark should be aware that, yes, his actions are not in line with the CoC. ChrisA