Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.franciliens.net!news.muarf.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'granted,': 0.07; 'craft': 0.09; 'host,': 0.09; 'propagate': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'tcp/ip': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'wrapped': 0.09; 'i.e.,': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'packets.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:send': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'gateway': 0.24; 'url:home': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'host': 0.29; 'ray': 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; 'addresses': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'basic': 0.35; 'beyond': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'next': 0.36; 'charset :us-ascii': 0.36; 'received:76': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'identify': 0.61; 'address': 0.63; 'reply': 0.66; 'direct': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'william': 0.81; 'subject:via': 0.84; 'carries': 0.91; 'destination': 0.91; 'outgoing': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:31:33 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <52379718$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-21-145.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379543501 news.xs4all.nl 15884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55735 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54404 On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:34:50 -0400, William Ray Wing declaimed the following: > >I think you need to read up on some of the most basic fundamentals of tcp/ip networking, i.e., the basis of the global internet. EVERY network packet (and I do mean every) packet in an IP network carries both a source and a destination address in its header. These are fundamentally necessary in order to allow the gateway router at the originating site to direct an outgoing packet to its destination, and allow the receiving host at the destination site to craft reply packets. > Even worse -- IP packets are wrapped by Ethernet packets which use MAC addresses for direct routing between nodes... Granted, those MAC addresses may not propagate beyond the next defined gateway IP host, but they do (theoretically) identify the exact NIC that sent the packet. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/