Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed1.swip.net!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'encoded': 0.07; 'l\xc3\xb6wis': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'windows': 0.15; 'api,': 0.16; 'language:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'thereby': 0.16; 'url:peps': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'memory': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'of.': 0.24; 'url:dev': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'world,': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'says': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'tool': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'actions': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'strictly': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: How to turn a string into a list of integers? Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 03:41:31 -0400 References: <1amjdb-p3n.ln1@chris.zbmc.eu> <1k9odb-1qs.ln1@chris.zbmc.eu> <540aa002$0$29968$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <540b504a$0$29974$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <540bb91c$0$29969$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <540c8fc4$0$29973$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8b80fe39-4aea-4a17-a1a6-a44f0b42fb7b@googlegroups.com> <540c9f19$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8738c2ekex.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <8738c2ekex.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1410162116 news.xs4all.nl 2920 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43224 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:77696 On 9/8/2014 1:44 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> The original question was regarding storage - how PEP 393 says that >> strings will be encoded in memory in any of three ways (Latin-1, >> UCS-2/UTF-16, or UCS-4/UTF-32). But even in our world, that is not >> what a string *is*, but only what it is made of. > > I'm a bit surprised that kind of CPython implementation detail would go= > into a PEP. I had thought PEPs codified Python independently of CPython= =2E There are multiple PEP that are not strictly about Python the language:=20 meta-peps, informational peps, and others about the cpython api,=20 implementation, and distribution issues. 393 is followed by 397 Python launcher for Windows Hammond, v. L=C3=B6wis http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/ The PEP process is a tool for the core development team and the product=20 is documentation of decisions and actions thereby > But maybe CPython is to Python what England is to the UK: even the > government is having a hard time making a distinction. We don't. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy