Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'syntax': 0.04; 'mrab': 0.05; 'json': 0.07; 'parser': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'decodes': 0.09; 'spec': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'subset': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'escapes': 0.16; 'former,': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'json:': 0.16; 'latter,': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'pairs': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'surrogate': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; 'value.': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'question': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'define': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'primarily': 0.30; "skip:' 10": 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'compatible': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; 'received:84': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'skip:j 20': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'new': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'guarantee': 0.63; 'therefore,': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'guaranteed': 0.75; "'true'": 0.84; '(ie': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'hand,': 0.93 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=S6lXwecP c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=u9EReRu7m0cA:10 a=8GIvbBF9nK0A:10 a=MQH2_SA4b-8A:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=BDcmInbzvI3qip4uxu0A:9 a=lDmw61BHwaXkFRFt:21 a=K3S-LggYNCNTjq2_:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 17:32:01 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Storing instances using jsonpickle References: <46e782a5-b087-4f95-aadb-26e233bf5419@googlegroups.com> <5407A69B.3030707@mrabarnett.plus.com> <5409ED0B.2030902@mrabarnett.plus.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1410021129 news.xs4all.nl 2907 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42087 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:77654 On 2014-09-06 01:20, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:04 AM, MRAB > wrote: >> JSON has 'true' and 'false'. >> >> Python has 'True' and 'False'. >> >> Therefore, if you want it to be able to drop it into Python's REPL, >> it won't be compatible with JSON anyway! (Well, not unless you >> define 'true' and 'false' first.) > > This is a new spec, so I guess the question is whether it's > primarily "JSON with some more features" or "subset of Python syntax > in the same way that JSON is a subset of JS". If it's the former, > then yes, it'd use "true" and "false", and you'd have to define them; > but if the latter, the spec would simply use "True" and "False". But > being able to guarantee that JSON decodes correctly with this parser > (ie make it a guaranteed superset of JSON) would be of value. > I've found that there's another issue with JSON: string escapes include \u, but not \U: >>> json.dumps('\U0010FFFF') '"\\udbff\\udfff"' Yes, it uses surrogate escapes! Also: >>> json.dumps('\uDBFF\uDFFF') '"\\udbff\\udfff"' so it won't round-trip. On the other hand, you probably won't be using pairs of surrogate escapes in Python 3.3+.