Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; '__name__': 0.07; 'other,': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'def': 0.10; ':-)': 0.13; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'closures': 0.16; 'frame,': 0.16; 'lambda': 0.16; 'received:mail- wi0-f178.google.com': 0.16; 'statement.': 0.16; 'subject:usage': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'appropriate': 0.20; 'defined': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'subject:per': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'not.': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'created': 0.36; 'except': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'chance': 0.61; 'between': 0.63; 'alive.': 0.65; 'fact,': 0.69; 'oscar': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Y2dOYGPKmDAzdtGPDUrCUEm8Ym+xkYCZT9ZL7kQ7W34=; b=FDVdpzj+cSLyU1K8yCMeyBqktUhOz5ORRtTzRnK9T36V2EzvHX+aUAUF/K9rjVRxQc T57vrEH1V4uuAdFGJM8nTeLVaCR4F8tbkIBgtFd8BoOCN7EhQEztyAUNHot83v+amLM0 JX3f876jr4If8unEy56jw1HLtjjBZwi9WMSdrYaZb6/it2h/4To9+TYbwcK2lABbn9z+ TjKxMnoOReLqZkj/BTnUeWOv5nfNsU4MM2qz851yKRtP4ICj0/WY7OtX0+se5YrsKz9P iEdWYo0v+hDOjWx5+nClcPk0dVdF28GhaLR45KaNDJLjRGEu5eYq1fMDHxWUQQCE+Js+ E/1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <983c532f-3ff6-4bd2-bb48-07cf4d065a4b@googlegroups.com> <5060EB2C.6080508@tim.thechases.com> <5060F3BB.7010706@gmail.com> <5061F31D.3020207@gmail.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:09:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Memory usage per top 10x usage per heapy To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348611003 news.xs4all.nl 6987 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50336 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30130 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > Also I think lambda functions might be able to keep the frame alive. Are > they by any chance being created in a function that is called in a loop? I'm pretty sure they don't. Closures don't keep a reference to the calling frame, only to the appropriate cellvars. Also note that whether a function is a closure has nothing to do with whether it was defined by a lambda or a def statement. In fact, there's no difference between functions created by one vs. the other, except that one has an interesting __name__ and the other does not. :-)