Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'great.': 0.07; 'vi,': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; "wouldn't": 0.11; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'do,': 0.15; 'death.': 0.16; 'desktop.': 0.16; 'gained': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'ides': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'hacking': 0.17; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'windows': 0.19; 'not,': 0.21; 'required.': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'command': 0.24; 'tried': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'perl': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'switch': 0.32; 'guys': 0.33; 'me?': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'machines': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'received:74.125': 0.36; 'programmers': 0.36; 'totally': 0.36; 'test': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'editor': 0.37; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'love': 0.63; 'customized': 0.64; 'alike': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lyOxiTUT8gAbeTKeb5VwL+bngAvjywJkX4RzZDn72FE=; b=ldsnuXNcKO+R24EJvgTJ5ESA8cZ7/7Jem0afshzp5TbDqvFUhTd6neA+k2qzvxRL97 ut6UOzednNNgYZOjP1aCK5Rx4zy2wYAEuYAD5bYUfYea1ciBZVu4vEDIvYaAkRXsAPY3 9MlOiS2TUcMt7hXgCaaEZLahtJsbT79Q961fDsReDoFCcq/71L8kN3qD0zk6OsSzXLV9 Ibwf1qIwmNN0NwFX9NqgmVURAIBaKZbOnC3RlbrZgwx7MO2xL32btXu2W53Irwa+RmDK I/a1WtfiDkMKXYBfenFDX1oc3HPHGujbMqaP6C2SseOmxzXQ7Rh/vi/wappI8ByqbkBx 2u2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:30:42 -0700 Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? From: Modulok To: mogul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356651044 news.xs4all.nl 6960 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60865 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35661 > 'Aloha! > > I'm new to python, got 10-20 years perl and C experience, all gained on unix > alike machines hacking happily in vi, and later on in vim. > > Now it's python, and currently mainly on my kubuntu desktop. > > Do I really need a real IDE, as the windows guys around me say I do, or will > vim, git, make and other standalone tools make it the next 20 years too for > me? > > Oh, by the way, after 7 days I'm completely in love with this python thing. > I should have made the switch much earlier! > > /mogul %-) No. If you want to test one out, great. If not, it's totally not required. I use jEdit (text editor) and a bunch of command line tools on FreeBSD. I've tried various IDEs and have yet to find one I totally agree with. Yet, I know guys who use them and wouldn't part with them 'til death. I always end up back in a customized text editor and a *nix command shell. I prefer it. There's a lot of *very* skilled programmers in both camps. -Modulok-