Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '>>': 0.16; "(i'll": 0.16; 'defer': 0.16; 'life?': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; '>>>': 0.24; 'bytes': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'received:209.85.217': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'see,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'yes.': 0.31; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'received:209': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'days': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'holes': 0.84; 'stone': 0.84; 'subject:money': 0.84; 'that),': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q8tQIGSX/WJfF/9q+AGCNaaKTHVEjg1IWffMt8LfmWg=; b=ybo3GDYZg8LgV0QP/H59mqYt0nx1LRg7fqjJ5FOSmHQV0Hqe4gMWnWnWXGbfPIQRTg 8LJnc41k1oIknEPH5jDx/F8g3+Hxfa1dqBmQ0TpL30wv0m1A1hf3TtQdc9nvbAls4NON pzqkGhNTyxAp96ZM54mfr3Fk+RyDegftdL5H2QHuZF/KDTkK8xWBtkHX62gliPfFyPfm I5GqxhAcyHMNutY4AuZr0YlQWbpqKxK66ic1b3+pHidFUKg8EnqhcdMhBHMvZoWBCNGJ vEe+a29oP4VzXVTtif7vaCpbz1ED9DspjrAHhoWpUrhzCcBuUU6UkXoI9wDphE0due68 jSMA== X-Received: by 10.112.158.106 with SMTP id wt10mr6608647lbb.75.1367856311076; Mon, 06 May 2013 09:05:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51879c03$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <5186aeb6$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51879c03$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Joshua Landau Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 17:04:30 +0100 Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers To: "Steven D'Aprano" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2a9b8868bc904dc0edd33 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 68 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367856319 news.xs4all.nl 15960 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60781 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44834 --001a11c2a9b8868bc904dc0edd33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 May 2013 13:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 06 May 2013 17:30:33 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, F=E1bio Santos > > wrote: > >>> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 > >>> characters wide. > >> > >> No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire life? > > > > Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defer to > > Steven for data points earlier than that), > > > You had bytes? You were lucky. When I were a lad, we used to have to > program by punching holes in stone tablets with our head. > > > You-tell-young-people-this-today-and-they-don't-believe-you-ly y'rs, I do have my doubts, yes. --001a11c2a9b8868bc904dc0edd33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 6 May 2013 13:03, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
On Mon, 06 May 20= 13 17:30:33 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, F=E1bio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only = 80
>>> characters wide.
>>
>> No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire lif= e?
>
> Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in th= e Python 2 days (I'll defer to
> Steven for data points earlier than that),


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