Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'vi,': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'do,': 0.15; 'advice,': 0.16; 'desktop.': 0.16; 'eclipse': 0.16; 'gained': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'ides': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'hacking': 0.17; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'windows': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'there.': 0.28; 'perl': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'switch': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'guys': 0.33; 'me?': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'machines': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'received:209.85.216': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'love': 0.63; 'received:200': 0.71; 'honest': 0.75; 'alike': 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v3dwYEtfPx0ihaM2Um1rDDQtq7gNE3CK9GsdKBPIob4=; b=TpOFdxQEPbU4mk33/XggQKmPsV9+jx5UNy9WToORcQ5il5IMh6+5l9ovwEB6KO0c2z 0AjFkQyxms7k8YHwFCyoPM6j672kl7COJnhQiBQe6l7RyDxtmxkIlCAkg9llmqDhrFBT nrjDi0xrSxV+FNduVAlp6j++eIK7MQAJtrdUQXpSr8/I8PvOf4XW3/ZcIx65ETE1zRnD 1XHSSJ9A2ADN/FVbDxCzeXqqfoaH+qKGSuGgkbHeOwZNqYMgr/5EX5/+v5CHX6DlqW9B StD9tkisnc/48eE8t6qjmjc0HrPoizvQ1NdKdNbMVGTkbNfWwiAcKwCWSfi0OWUlpWRJ UvBg== X-Received: by 10.49.37.226 with SMTP id b2mr17510658qek.31.1356639893087; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:14:38 -0300 From: peter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356639901 news.xs4all.nl 6858 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60218 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35648 On 12/27/2012 05:01 PM, mogul wrote: > 'Aloha! > > I'm new to python, got 10-20 years perl and C experience, all gained on unix alike machines hacking happily in vi, and later on in vim. > > Now it's python, and currently mainly on my kubuntu desktop. > > Do I really need a real IDE, as the windows guys around me say I do, or will vim, git, make and other standalone tools make it the next 20 years too for me? > > Oh, by the way, after 7 days I'm completely in love with this python thing. I should have made the switch much earlier! > > /mogul %-) You going to create a war here. My honest advice, is just taste the different ides that are out there. - emacs - vi - aptana - eclipse - pycharm - wingide. - etc - etc. I currently use emacs for everything.