Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'nntp': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'headers,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; '(see': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '>>>>': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; "i'd": 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'tech': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'august': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; '.org': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'good,': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: IDLE has suddenly become FAWLTY - so should I be hitting it with a big stick, or what? Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:03:10 -0400 References: <4eec9365-4103-4474-a47f-ea665b265b1e@googlegroups.com> <5a9b5715-382b-4a6b-be90-c535ad14740a@googlegroups.com> <231abf85-568d-409b-ba4c-7a0855fc91e3@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1409112210 news.xs4all.nl 2942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40404 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:77097 On 8/26/2014 9:11 PM, Twirlip2 wrote: > On Wednesday, 27 August 2014 01:51:20 UTC+1, Terry Reedy wrote: >> On 8/26/2014 7:29 PM, Twirlip2 wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 27 August 2014 00:20:56 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>>> Another lesson is that google grops is crap [...] >>> You read my mind! (See parenthetical note at end of my most recent post.) >> You can access python-list (and a few thousand other tech lists as an >> nntp newsgroup via news.gmane.com. If you check headers, you will see >> that this is what I (and many others) do. > > That sounds good, and I'd like to try it (tomorrow!), but: > > "Server not found > Firefox can't find the server at news.gmane.com. sorry. .org This is gmane.comp.python.general -- Terry Jan Reedy