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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:44:38 +0200
Subject: Re: GO vs Python
From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= <kwpolska@gmail.com>
To: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, August 25, 2014 7:56:55 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Michael Torrie:
>
>> > On 08/25/2014 06:24 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> >>> display artist names like M=EF=BF=BDtley Cr=EF=BF=BDe and Beyonc=EF=
=BF=BD, I would be more
>> >> Your mail client seems to be 7-bit ASCII!!
>> > No it came through fine here, originally. It must be Google Groups
>> > that messed up the characters in displaying the message and in your
>> > reply.
>
>> I saw it fine (<URL: news:comp.lang.python>), but there were no MIME
>> headers. MIME might not be part of the NNTP standard, but is a good idea
>> even there. GNUS must have guessed the encoding based on my locale.
>
>> Marko
>
> Mysterious...
>
> This page
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-August/677408.html
> shows charset as us-ascii
> And it shows M=C3=B6tley Cr=C3=BCe and Beyonc=C3=A9
> So it means =C3=B6 =C3=BC =C3=A9 are us-ascii?
>
> [Of course I understand none of all this]
>
> =E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF [To force GG to unicode this message=
]
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Your browser helpfully ignores that header and uses ISO-8859-1, which
*is* the actual encoding of that message.  Gmail displays the message
properly me, but apparently Google Groups defaults to UTF-8, and that
results in question marks.

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