Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Sibylle Koczian Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: help with program Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:48:49 +0200 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <1392737302.749065.1459024715818.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1392737302.749065.1459024715818.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <56f878e8$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de csJ1vMvS/23mkOOL4jEGlAC6uAY/J0ovxysLbfZDPcpQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'raises': 0.07; 'received:192.168.178': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'python': 0.10; ':-)': 0.12; 'exception': 0.13; '2016': 0.16; 'exceptions.': 0.16; 'message-id:@web.de': 0.16; 'received:192.168.178.22': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'traceback.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; 'linux,': 0.18; 'gui': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'windows': 0.20; 'programming': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'appear': 0.26; 'command': 0.26; 'solution,': 0.29; 'program,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'putting': 0.30; 'up.': 0.32; 'screen': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; "won't": 0.38; 'speak': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'application': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'received:194': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'mar': 0.65; "d'aprano:": 0.84; 'simple:': 0.84; 'same,': 0.91; 'mistakes': 0.95 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 In-Reply-To: <56f878e8$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-ID: ZB4tfcZTQh+PNh78afDGylcAvWddWHU1+RKQ3WJO-Wosn4tQHjll0A7Xr54i4guQle X-TOI-MSGID: 8c4ca472-ae54-4750-ad8d-c9481c20cb56 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:13:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105965 Am 28.03.2016 um 02:20 schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:18 am, Bob Gailer wrote: > >> The problem with putting input at the end of a program is: if the program >> raises an exception you won't see it. > > True. But the solution to that is simple: don't make mistakes when > programming :-) > > If you have a better solution, please speak up. I don't know Windows very > well and I'm not sure why the console is disappearing in the first place. > Because it was opened only by starting the program, and so it closes when the program ends. Wouldn't the same thing happen on Linux, if a console application were started from the file manager? I would always start a console application from an open command prompt, in case of exceptions. And if my Python GUI application doesn't appear on the screen I do the same, to see the traceback.