Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'compiler': 0.07; 'debugging': 0.07; 'front-end': 0.07; 'executable': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'alot': 0.16; 'c/c++': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'statement.': 0.16; 'elements': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'code.': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'producing': 0.19; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'tend': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'compiled': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'subject:end': 0.31; 'this.': 0.32; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'generating': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'high': 0.63; 'within': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'dont': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'normal.': 0.68; 'etc,': 0.84; 'sets,': 0.84; 'washington': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vkEp/F1BWrTe/NFkjCKvh9nLlwXV65MRmf7obpVSphs=; b=E13Lynf45ahIt/B2vElCzfCnk9dF1Ab7FGycAMF1xifHKnUO6VxHpxylWaDz2Ir9Qg 4ppCVG8F+JNnxq/Wnv4iEmoPbsrpxD2+Zts1PSTe7mIau69iWWXWzE0AVGeRTtGFplwY MFtPxgsCdtpn/b//GP9z7HqoxWE2dUnaut+d9GuBLHdcpErq29w7cKOt3yAIwIURwWJ/ HoxTeLEMis1yzBdfAWKMWNVX4ZgtHQGrqbZWGmzxryAOgzxEXD/sLPatPdyTef8xAUIP Us8NDaCb5rd8IUwbQ8gbpeyG64wgcLqGU8Ty3KtanKbdL5vH80fp9zc3Qt6+IWUdqSqF 93mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.78.78 with SMTP id z14mr7389591wjw.32.1382396643233; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54f8eb09-7a2e-4306-86f2-7ae118fa8055@googlegroups.com> References: <4012031f-5334-4be8-a673-e0d8c8917fb2@googlegroups.com> <5a4e0ec9-c977-4a86-83b0-9f4c55a82e37@googlegroups.com> <54f8eb09-7a2e-4306-86f2-7ae118fa8055@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:04:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Python Front-end to GCC From: Mark Janssen To: Philip Herron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382396650 news.xs4all.nl 15910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58547 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57215 > No its not like those 'compilers' i dont really agree with a compiler gen= erating C/C++ and saying its producing native code. I dont really believe i= ts truely within the statement. Compilers that do that tend to put in alot = of type saftey code and debugging internals at a high level to get things w= orking in other projects i am not saying python compilers here i havent ana= lysed enough to say this. Hmm, well what I'd personally find interesting from a computer science point of view is a app that will take a language specification in BNF (complete with keywords and all) and output C code which is then compiled to an executable as normal. This is how a front-end should be designed. A middle-layer for translating common language elements like lists, sets, etc, could make it easy. --=20 MarkJ Tacoma, Washington