Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.052 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'compiler': 0.07; '22,': 0.09; 'ascii': 0.09; 'screen.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '(these': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'medieval': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'aug': 0.22; 'tests': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'environment': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'checking': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'two': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'yes': 0.68; 'watching': 0.68; 'manner': 0.72; './configure': 0.84; 'scholar': 0.84; 'wish,': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'imagine': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=m+Qb5VZViqX+BzuhfrhusvdcGPodNKZm1vi78qlOYxA=; b=v7kHWmQlmksBMFaElgE0feBbjibYW6paEGBlkfGXIVDZEuEoOk1ZCCP/OPfpe/nmsw zWMIAxNzk3eKZ1lQOt3OIIdyNEiI26MSq52jWsAiuGaXkMTVy5TzrQj9iZLJFKyrHju/ +WaW9tjBjEbJ7aahCYDOWA0v+UpA2oYbTarsOWsT0I2jXUZIx7Z6re6V1YyZwS7PfIdd TMXxOwxn0uZrMoka5A49BQZwxHp52W0vWaKKdipTd6l6QhJ5LNh3NKUkj2tqj3fjfEA1 wUf3+cbKg6h8PNrbS9rWRLYPYzFUf/OyvbXVadyGAI6WKHWpDevBN+bloSfG4SliwQ8v NTGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.80.76 with SMTP id p12mr11340861igx.34.1408712455309; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fvgoj2i8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:00:55 +1000 Subject: Re: Python vs C++ From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1408712463 news.xs4all.nl 2870 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57027 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76789 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Neil D. Cerutti wrote: > C itself is very simple (albeit not simple to use). But I contend you do > need to be a Medieval Scholar to compile and link it. My mind boggles > watching a ./configure vomit ASCII all over my screen. I have to avert my > eyes, make a wish, and make install. ;) Bah, it's more fun to actually read it, and to imagine what manner of system might fail some of those tests :) checking for candle... no checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for windows.h usability... no checking for windows.h presence... no (these last two on a system that had already been probed and found to be Linux) And of course: checking whether build environment is sane... http://xkcd.com/371/ ChrisA