Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'perl,': 0.07; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; "(i'll": 0.16; '3.3,': 0.16; 'defer': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thanks.': 0.20; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'bytes': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'appreciated': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; 'absolute': 0.30; 'see,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'long.': 0.31; 'overhead': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'representing': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'employee': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'year.': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'guarantee': 0.63; 'day.': 0.63; 'happen': 0.63; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'characters,': 0.84; 'december,': 0.84; 'portugal.': 0.84; 'subject:money': 0.84; 'that),': 0.91; '280': 0.93; 'average': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6GeZrJmHKN3sXf5SQDzOLkABJBT87gzyNzRrHgdpXQE=; b=f5XbavATg9j0L4cwOv8H2bqMSBILKjo/uok8xIZYUayeTYP7Ae4eJ0uqm7ETDI1JYK qDiuNN9dLFr12VP7JkbHjUy3X4vPSZfO9ncpXSyc/X19y4eV3ggk5749ebO9Cr4FxxHj mDVv7c2dmrjy7YvZmIc1/mVSjVlgIuLzU1BXtD6E7qBLHIses4NtnFdbIajvLkCbRMI7 e9u+H2MSahD5w5B/ZjSSZEhrX8cndZJ5C0CLJ2PhFh7L+dBwmd2KzCpTVVT16Mp+wAJa vQNQxH8v82e1p7LlyBuSnE3bj1U2NpOHjWhl9Lbhsheo9S1DCVIQrvZdXl/IdWPDj3AB 4pYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.41.34 with SMTP id c2mr25462041qel.16.1367826594591; Mon, 06 May 2013 00:49:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5186aeb6$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 08:49:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=E1bio_Santos?= To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdca7c2491a5604dc07f226 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 66 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367826603 news.xs4all.nl 15924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35317 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44806 --047d7bdca7c2491a5604dc07f226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 6 May 2013 08:34, "Chris Angelico" wrote: > Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defer to > Steven for data points earlier than that), but with Python 3, there > were two versions: one was 140 bytes representing 70 characters, the > other 280 bytes representing 70 characters. In Python 3.3, they were > merged, and a trivial amount of overhead added, so now it's 80 bytes > representing 70 characters. But you have an absolute guarantee that > it's correct now. > > Of course, the entire code can be represented as a single int now. You > used to have to use a long. > > ChrisA > -- Thanks. You have made my day. I may rise the average pay of a Python programmer in Portugal. I have asked for a raise back in December, and was told that it wouldn't happen before this year. I have done well. I think I deserve better pay than a supermarket employee now. I am sure that my efforts were appreciated and I will be rewarded. I am being sarcastic. The above paragraph wouldn't be true if I programmed in perl, c++ or lisp. --047d7bdca7c2491a5604dc07f226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 6 May 2013 08:34, "Chris Angelico" <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defe= r to
> Steven for data points earlier than that), but with Python 3, there > were two versions: one was 140 bytes representing 70 characters, the > other 280 bytes representing 70 characters. In Python 3.3, they were > merged, and a trivial amount of overhead added, so now it's 80 byt= es
> representing 70 characters. But you have an absolute guarantee that > it's correct now.
>
> Of course, the entire code can be represented as a single int now. You=
> used to have to use a long.
>
> ChrisA
> --

Thanks. You have made my day.

I may rise the average pay of a Python programmer in Portuga= l. I have asked for a raise back in December, and was told that it wouldn&#= 39;t happen before this year. I have done well. I think I deserve better pa= y than a supermarket employee now. I am sure that my efforts were appreciat= ed and I will be rewarded. I am being sarcastic.

The above paragraph wouldn't be true if I programmed in = perl, c++ or lisp.

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