Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; '"if': 0.04; 'around.': 0.07; 'hash': 0.09; 'nicely': 0.09; 'programmer': 0.11; 'subject:error': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'library': 0.15; "developer's": 0.16; 'library"': 0.16; 'subject:vs.': 0.16; 'argument': 0.16; 'subject:was': 0.16; 'awesome': 0.19; 'language': 0.20; 'code': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'archives': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.22; 'primarily': 0.22; 'mental': 0.23; 'chris': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'feature,': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'things': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'usually': 0.36; 'table': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'less': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.39; 'likely': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'subject: (': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'level.': 0.40; 'include': 0.40; "it's": 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; '2011': 0.62; 'subject:. ': 0.66; 'subject:Development': 0.73; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.84; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.84; 'time"': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=chhqZineSjQoSzeL2d5TE3tFfka9j8MIIK9gJzDiIMQ=; b=oRnqhBJjK/EyG5/m2hX5HTzvKdA/iMShjR4c7GzQIHvm4Lbjs3nMQNygEaTQ7qvNlq 8EcEM6p01x9Zov9BR4Kv4bCSmr1FPC0bNBThajnRpLLU9SMdzKmq1ijYL3Uxu4TosY7T aMWcSZfDUZS8RMw8FNaaBUtlXjDz0zunM2yok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LEY2JV1R3Dy94sYq2Ixshu+tFrSa+1OqmTQolF7ZrwfchdkSRkyrkVvBTZdiTA3CNz O+5QVq87uOuwFFcHlOSJBfezPTUy86ojervke4TwW99+nvnZUlU4n6DVZCJMFFCc/g/r YASca4mcKCf+5h3fXppu5xPRzEx90DfDtKJZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87fwoprw1m.fsf@mithlond.arda> References: <87iptw1egh.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <87ei4k0ygz.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <87aaf7246f.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <4dbd221a$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4dbedec0$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <38f398-14h.ln1@svn.schaathun.net> <4dbf4a99$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87hb9521ci.fsf@ugg.bibliotech.com> <4dc69395$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87fwoprw1m.fsf@mithlond.arda> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:49:01 +1000 Subject: Re: Development time vs. runtime performance (was: Fibonacci series recursion error) From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1304909345 news.xs4all.nl 81479 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:52453 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:4968 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: > But of course "development time" is a nicely vague concept. Depending on > the argument it can include just the features of language and > implementation. Other times it could include all the available resources > such as documentation, library archives and community mailing lists. All > these can reduce development time. > And it also includes a developer's personal experience level. A good programmer will have a mental "algorithmic library" if you like; effectively, it's a gigantic hash table of "if I need to do this, I can do it this way". A mediocre programmer will both take longer and produce less efficient code than an awesome programmer. This is primarily not a language feature, but a language that usually has one obvious way to do things will likely be easier to grok than a language that has myriad "gotchas" to work around. Chris Angelico