Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'cpython': 0.05; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'objects,': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'work,': 0.20; 'aug': 0.22; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'comparing': 0.24; 'integer': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'testing': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; '(which': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'not.': 0.33; 'equal': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'false': 0.36; 'object,': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'anytime': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'answer.': 0.68; 'behavior': 0.77; '257': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:19:39 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "python-list@python.org" Subject: Re: 'is not' or '!=' References: <87fvgt7c4i.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53F27340.90604@stoneleaf.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1408400381 news.xs4all.nl 2850 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37636 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76520 On 08/18/2014 03:04 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: >> >> If you are not dealing with singletons (which is most cases), such as numbers, strings, lists, and most other >> arbitrary objects, you will need to use "!=" or anytime the two objects you are comparing are not the exact same >> object, you can easily get the wrong answer. > > For example, in CPython 3.4.1: >>>> (254 + 3) is 257 > False >>>> (254 + 3) == 257 > True >>>> ('asd' + '@sd') is 'asd@sd' > False >>>> ('asd' + '@sd') == 'asd@sd' > True > > However, when testing these cases, you need to be careful due to optimizations like smaller integer interning and string > interning: > >>>> (254 + 2) == 256 > True >>>> (254 + 2) is 256 > True >>>> ('asd' + 'sd') == 'asdsd' > True >>>> ('asd' + 'sd') is 'asdsd' > True > > In each of these cases, the behavior may be different in other implementations or versions of Python. But the point to remember is that, for equal objects, '==' will work, 'is' may or may not. -- ~Ethan~