Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.05; 'skip:` 10': 0.07; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'suggest': 0.14; 'determines': 0.16; 'repr': 0.16; 'timezones': 0.16; 'utc': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'apply.': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'skip:p 30': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "skip:' 10": 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '120': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'subject:time': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'dates': 0.36; 'shows': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'ian': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'hours': 0.66; 'minutes': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'shanghai': 0.84; 'subject:location': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=UnivYXAp1QfKTPWctbp+SaDz+gYX1mAYWiWxBKmB2TM=; b=wZyYRwdZL88bYnD4GFHxsoSrsFlpvAEiOZZOvZ169vOLsFcZiHwANbiFpM64+i0mYS fb7nNvyBSthNzcb3SNkZ6PmQoKeKpPJ11weWpEIR6H/FRLnk+2bEbMQd4QUrls3xC5et tgMzd0Y/5Xwy2BNTrG0tEXv9wW7KiNwWVMpP4UiNYnJ3ASdkBmtwnDAZcvErrPuz4YxI TOzw5JPIPqbhQcYUhsX4xS3mRAG1k8JGvlyliM/RWV9SyvfpOUZ7Yv7XQPUS/s99cBUL 2kjvMjfjYXK0v5Xu9tEePrHY6UwNDr6CPjpCbZsdhjgQYrxGYHKvMN1QnnCPL9JrwLNh D+LQ== X-Received: by 10.70.137.98 with SMTP id qh2mr32300047pdb.61.1408385546683; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:12:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <53F14971.3010209@gmail.com> <85mwb24h9o.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <53F1875F.4020109@gmail.com> <53F1FBCC.6060406@gmail.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:11:46 -0600 Subject: Re: How to look up historical time zones by date and location To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1408385550 news.xs4all.nl 2855 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76500 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:12 AM, luofeiyu wrote: >> >> I found that it is a concept LMT local mean time can express my meaning. >> >> import pytz,datetime >> tz1 = pytz.timezone('Asia/Shanghai') >> tz1 >> >> >>> str(tz1) >> 'Asia/Shanghai' >> >> tz2 = pytz.timezone('Asia/Urumqi') >> tz2 >> >> >> the time difference between shanghai and Urumqi is about 2 hours in the form of LMT. >> >> now ,how can i get the output of `LMT+8:06:00` in >> >> str(tz1) or str(tz2) can not do that. > > By working with dates far enough in the past that the modern time zone > rules don't apply. Some experimentation determines that the timedelta > between Shanghai and Urumqi goes from 136 minutes to 120 minutes in > 1928, and then from 120 minutes to 0 minutes in 1980. I don't know why > those dates don't match the dates given by Wikipedia in [1], and I > also don't know why pytz shows the LMT offset in the repr for those > timezones instead of the current UTC offset. > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_China Or if you really just want to work with the unofficial Xinjiang time, then I'd suggest simply constructing a datetime.timezone for UTC+6.