Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; '*not*': 0.07; 'scripting': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'side.': 0.16; 'proprietary': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'admin': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'script': 0.25; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'streaming': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'breaking': 0.31; 'forces': 0.31; 'race,': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'wrong': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'unable': 0.39; 'solve': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'pro': 0.69; 'music': 0.75; 'care,': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=uKUIRMsaNnZ1/3ltxi0xUsTHHDTf7FJKQB5/B9/nvC4=; b=hbpPPpGYsHVIDqYjuf5VDdDU/Xv9rMbJ3pXgiBlneAmBpMse6xY+gv4Sq9WY7ITvH9 yUIxtwwD7youORLXJFbHMRCTBSFn6+tBPuGZd/YZHRdDbZMIoB3n184g62CbIyjeu0CU ITOI46hgar5WC600ZJTA8/05DYDTX8GqSHfMohYveJs72rajCr5rnUE7eF8fJhW7pdLB FSjBvP3cMsUJvZwH+hiAU9T74eC9m9+OGMIY/8JcTVbZrpPTQdQLt9GzrOutcDVzZul1 +BjyjKRuLWuQIY4aoZEwAWybAPOmo69YttSj43/lLl8ZpCkRSL3V13VnenGZhDz8+tRS TqWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.230.212 with SMTP id jn20mr21359328icb.59.1408123806465; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EE40D7.5070406@harvee.org> References: <8c2e4bc2-4f46-4a68-83ed-469fe171de3a@googlegroups.com> <2320baf0-e097-4d67-97c1-dd37ca79fffb@googlegroups.com> <376a239c-77e8-4e0e-9300-847dfa8a8547@googlegroups.com> <53EE40D7.5070406@harvee.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:30:06 +1000 Subject: Re: Captcha identify From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1408123815 news.xs4all.nl 2978 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37643 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76378 On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > not what I said or advocated. pointing out that breaking captchas is good > for accessibility issues it not the same as being pro spambot. it may have > that effect but it is not the same thing. I don't care, frankly. I'm still not going to help anyone to break CAPTCHAs automatically. If you're unable to solve CAPTCHAs, it's equivalent to being unable to run VBScript or unable to download music over a proprietary streaming protocol: it's a problem to be solved by getting the server admin to change policy, *not* by trying to script around it. Scripting around the problem just forces everyone to make it harder to script around the problem. You're joining the arms race, and on the wrong side. Breaking CAPTCHAs is *not* good for any issue. ChrisA