Re: Captcha identify

Date	2014-08-15 13:18 -0400
From	"Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org>
Subject	Re: Captcha identify
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On 8/14/2014 7:19 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:39:20 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
>> you are clear but also missing a really good reason to break captchas.
>> handicapped accessibility.  Captchas are a huge barrier to access and in
>> many cases push disabled users away from using a service  with captchas.
> That's as may be, but bozo is not trying to improve handicapped
> accessibility, he's trying to write a spambot.

not necessary.  you are probably right but he never described the 
application.
>
> Please don't use the accessibility concerns surrounding captcha to
> justify writing spambot software. It doesn't help the accessibility
> argument to be seen to be pro spambot, in fact if anything it may damage
> it. I agree that there are more reasons not to use captcha these days
> than there are to use them, however I still don't advocate helping spambot
> bastards defeat them.
>
not what I said or advocated.  pointing out that breaking captchas is 
good for accessibility issues it not the same as being pro spambot. it 
may have that effect but it is not the same thing. fwiw, making software 
accessible means making it possible to make your own interface via an 
application api.  the current scrape-a-gui model fails the 
-what-the-user-needs test.  at the same time, notice the huge security 
risk an D(ability)A(ccessibility) api opens up. does not mean we 
shouldn't use the DA api model, just that we also need to fix the 
security problem at the same time.

Thread

Captcha identify Wesley <nispray@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 00:04 -0700
  Re: Captcha identify Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-08-12 08:59 -0400
    Re: Captcha identify Wesley <nispray@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 07:57 -0700
      Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 01:06 +1000
        Re: Captcha identify Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 15:38 +0000
          Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 01:54 +1000
            Re: Captcha identify Wesley <nispray@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 18:36 -0700
              Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 11:46 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-08-13 11:54 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2014-08-13 09:28 -0700
                Re: Captcha identify Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-14 03:52 +1000
                Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 04:21 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-08-13 07:39 -0400
                Re: Captcha identify alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-08-14 11:42 +0000
                Re: Captcha identify Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 23:19 +0000
                Re: Captcha identify "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-08-15 13:18 -0400
                Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-16 03:30 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 05:27 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-08-13 12:24 -0700
              Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 05:43 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 15:44 -0400
              Re: Captcha identify Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-13 14:55 -0500
              Re: Captcha identify Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-08-13 15:01 -0500
              Re: Captcha identify Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 14:16 -0600
                Re: Captcha identify Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-08-14 18:37 +0000
                Re: Captcha identify Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 13:42 -0600
                Re: Captcha identify "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-08-14 15:43 -0400
                Re: Captcha identify alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 17:03 +1000
                Re: Captcha identify Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-08-15 09:14 +0100
                Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 08:22 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-08-13 16:42 -0400
              Re: Captcha identify Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 14:18 -0600
              Re: Captcha identify Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 09:13 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-14 23:15 +0000
                Re: Captcha identify Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-08-15 13:23 +1000
              Re: Captcha identify Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 09:20 -0600
  Re: Captcha identify Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 13:51 +0000

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