Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.043 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'responding': 0.07; 'portions': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'etiquette.': 0.16; 'excerpt': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'quoted': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:post': 0.16; 'subject:top': 0.16; 'top-post': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'small,': 0.19; 'appears': 0.22; 'preferred': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'example.': 0.24; 'refers': 0.24; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'text.': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'appear': 0.29; 'fixed': 0.29; 'thus': 0.29; 'usually': 0.31; 'material.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'agree': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '(we': 0.36; 'right?': 0.36; 'material': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'john': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'day.': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'to,': 0.72; 'potentially': 0.81; 'points,': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'underneath': 0.84; '8bit%:33': 0.91; 'lift': 0.91; 'regret': 0.91; 'response,': 0.91; '\xe2\x80\x9cthe': 0.91; 'responses': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: problem on top-post Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:17:09 +1000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1RQS5h8VHhrTSqZL/g8qIRa8+s4= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1408076249 news.xs4all.nl 2939 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50632 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76353 John Gordon writes: > In luofeiyu writes: > > > the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent > > message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? > > The followup text appears underneath the quoted parent message, thus > bottom-post. “Bottom-post” usually refers to the inferior practice of quoting a message (entirely or large amounts) and then indiscriminately responding to all of it below all of the quoted text. The preferred style is “interleaved”, where responses are interleaved among the relevant parts of quoted material. Each response appears below only the relevant part. So no, the responses should not appear below the quoted *message*, but below the relevant *part* of the quoted material, followed potentially by more relevant quoted material and responses to those. (We agree that there should be no quoted material after all of your own responses; if you're not following quoted material with a relevant response, that part of the quoted material should be removed in your message.) With only a small, single point to respond to, the recommended “interleaved” style is identical to “bottom post” — in this message, for example. But “bottom post” is not preferred when there are multiple responses to multiple points, by one person or several. The “interleaved” style is the recommended etiquette. -- \ “The lift is being fixed for the day. During that time we | `\ regret that you will be unbearable.” —hotel, Bucharest | _o__) | Ben Finney