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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wr=
ote:
> On 31/12/2015 23:27, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given how very often such decisions make my debugging tasks
>>>> needlessly difficult, I'm not seeing how that's a desirable feature.
>>>
>>>
>>> What Steven's actually advocating is removing a difference between
>>> Python code and native code.
>>
>>
>> Sure, but his proposal is to move in the direction of *less* debugging
>> information.
>>
>> If I could have the traceback continue into the C code and tell me the
>> line of C code that raised the exception, *that's* what I'd choose.
>>
>> The debugging information barrier of the C=E2=80=93Python boundary is a
>> practical limitation, not a desirable one. I think those barriers should
>> be as few as possible, and don't agree with enabling more of them.
>>
>
> Where did C code enter into this?  What do the non C implementations do?
> All I see is a dumb original suggestion that should be shot down in flame=
s
> as I see no merit in it at all.

I used the term "native code", because Jython and PyPy do the exact
same thing that CPython does. (I haven't checked any others than
those, but I wouldn't be surprised if they, too, had this
distinction.) Short-handing to "C code" is close enough.

ChrisA