Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Warrick Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Everything good about Python except GUI IDE? Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:00:37 +0100 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <64a6599c-fae1-469d-bcee-875165b3cc7d@googlegroups.com> <56d294f8$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <62084c14-abd1-4214-af08-70ce8449c83e@googlegroups.com> <6dq5db5j0hg2evl7t334ftdm5sk8n5itge@4ax.com> <93t5db9sib9ldgktrt7523fnis4tgq2uev@4ax.com> <9064f06c-cbd5-4bf4-98d7-24bed0e78c10@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de uCgIwyiyF+JNE2Zxb2XePQYHTTXyUvKSkjfP3bLJfi/w== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'binary': 0.05; 'newline': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'git': 0.09; 'text"': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'user.': 0.15; '(last': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'messy': 0.16; 'mismatching': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'windows': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'enforce': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'xml': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'linux': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'style.': 0.29; 'convert': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'source': 0.33; 'conventions': 0.33; 'changing': 0.34; 'editor': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done': 0.35; 'quite': 0.35; 'asking': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'created': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'data': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'space': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'art': 0.62; 'yes': 0.62; 'effective': 0.63; 'saving': 0.70; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'utc+5:30,': 0.84; 'virtue': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=icSone4IrkstpzARU6J862nlYxH7khd32Et47bKFikE=; b=VahadBA16e/y+XGfw0r4aqgYQ9E2iwEXMbrMvgrv10O1OmXsYz8Ksr6heEBxj/1oTS 5C/1s8DVZ037124C8oYCCgGI37PTTqDI1CejU/YlDxmwtGs2hzcWEh5ZGHg2FiNBKJom KAB5RKunNaj2kN4iPcealMDnjPbLZjsKppuPpBF45VAKOS5vwAWT3IpL9TJyt00QEd4t 2E9kIuZUJDUOIPdT/R8OtAubvsJg6puIL0WRxxFYNrloo88UdyHVTYg37HqUsRsoEZlL 8clPrZB0F7Id/i8m+I6XHW2cdTcNjlMDNqKNN7J4ePILZG3wQVgOoRZ/5IPQTg7zq/7k oExA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=icSone4IrkstpzARU6J862nlYxH7khd32Et47bKFikE=; b=X9c8TPYUUBnsmJKD3oNYqWYa27VwXr5L+TH88YZOVFfco3gyNFWMACXaa4Y15P1A2V q6mMKUFypjf9JCe4BLm/995PXT/0Cmfbxov67njuX3jroUnuDwMQxy2dIQGjj/QcjTxq wm4V/nXJ2ZS0rQlvqf7KuEXJFcj2ZSBYBbRZcHnWgacd5IHnv7TCz9Sl2dNbn70I1nJc u489b2SjLxfURPtu0OguaKzuZG5k3SW8KLUzBYSMJeS6VjFvKh0N2YxUFGCmSBGB1OKA WO9yB98HiXclIrW7g6d7EMW5v4glZH+du1HEuPiRlRR1gpBvQqn8C46iQk0EvSRaa+vc 0aNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKXN87mmE2jkP0ajkMl96dhKcAAvBqBtdQU2dIAxV3yR4svG/vRzmXnURRaM6QqYVHpNUhE0YqBLQNwDQ== X-Received: by 10.112.173.202 with SMTP id bm10mr3691260lbc.17.1456668037496; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 06:00:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9064f06c-cbd5-4bf4-98d7-24bed0e78c10@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103641 On 28 February 2016 at 14:49, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 6:54:40 PM UTC+5:30, Gordon Levi wrote: >> Rustom Mody wrote: >> >Glade generates XML (last I saw) >> >XML is text... kinda... but not quite >> >eg XML is sometimes/somewhere space sensitive, sometimes not >> >This can generate messy diffs >> >> That is also true of Python code but does not preclude effective >> source control. > > Yes as I said its not satisfactory but not impossible to manage > > Heck Current state of art VCSes cannot even manage mismatching EOL conven= tions > cleanly. > And as usual they make a virtue out of the lack: > "git stores binary data not text" > > which means that opening a file created on windows on linux and saving it= in > WITHOUT a SINGLE CHANGE > can give you a 10,000 line diff!! You clearly haven=E2=80=99t ever done that. 1. git can manage EOL changing if you want to enforce a newline style that = way. 2. A good editor can read and write any newline style. It should also not convert without asking the user. --=20 Chris Warrick PGP: 5EAAEA16