Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.067 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.01; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cause.': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'invoking': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'strongly': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'community': 0.33; 'third': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'making': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'special': 0.74; 'goal': 0.75; 'glad': 0.83; 'harmful': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:girl': 0.84; 'welcoming': 0.84; '1988': 0.91; 'gender': 0.91; 'subject:!! ': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 10:22:48 +1100 References: <8c09473e-92df-40ac-b083-d2b3a2b75188@googlegroups.com> <2906370c-58c7-4d8b-8db3-2ea3773b9578@googlegroups.com> <54f8d56a$0$12984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54f916b2$0$12980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54f9ddf2$0$12987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MZt0ALl/URGtIdWjqs2e0mfKfzs= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425684162 news.xs4all.nl 2861 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45414 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87066 Steven D'Aprano writes: > (Well, I call it a "mild put-down". Ben may or may not agree that it is > mild.) I agree that the put-down is mild, in that the person uttering it probably doesn't expect it to be more than a mild insult to the person they were addressing. That's quite orthogonal to the fact that invoking gender as an insult is strongly undermining the goal of making our community welcoming to all genders. That effect on third parties is completely unrelated to the intended magnitude of the insult. I'm glad we have common cause. Let's keep calling out harmful crap when we see it. -- \ “Airports are ugly. Some are very ugly. Some attain a degree of | `\ ugliness that can only be the result of a special effort.” | _o__) —Douglas Adams, _The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul_, 1988 | Ben Finney