Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'installed.': 0.07; 'subject:installation': 0.07; 'default.': 0.09; 'omit': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'included': 0.31; 'install,': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'guess': 0.33; 'noticed': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'too': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'system.': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'different': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'subject:base': 0.84; 'crucial': 0.91; 'dozen': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HatYjEfMAggTuc8I5whCmF1TjCUUgffHQIdKTbHq8fk=; b=fb7JvE66mfY+bBXaXFYdYm8U6KNixNhSsTgAK7HTx27/10kvkY/mS45jYWueCIGRPS BQE1dQHDlqfDl1JqDn8xxnWrbRlJ+ZRZRHp7VWyG1bL5FuDGk5h5SGpVlBwGC9Oty8VQ 6v0W/b8hFzMsoBJWTTBr1BBdtvGp3Jl9Se9K4+w+musg7deb2mdFV+ndiTwyyZhP4I4P C7VckW+k4kKgCiTQnx7hYE2KK/rshRJZDtxEl7qLoMPY0BADHKaItukF+T8/agJVh131 QbAibLqMzqXsxEKhnD81Zzn6u4SJ6Kid8bEV3hBlGKkpcM0mPBZtONxQwWyTMBQZpe83 lHuQ== X-Received: by 10.66.119.39 with SMTP id kr7mr2888347pab.131.1407858591324; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:49:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Ian Kelly Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:49:11 -0600 Subject: Re: Linux distros w/o Python in "base" installation To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407858600 news.xs4all.nl 2838 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76121 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Grant Edwards wr= ote: > On 2014-08-12, Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Grant Edwards = wrote: >>> I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to >>> find that Python isn't installed as part of a "base" system. It's >>> also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to >>> install, but I'd still pretty surprised it's not there by default. I >>> guess I've spent too much time with Gentoo, Debian, and RedHat >>> derivitives which require Python be installed. >>> >>> I've probably used at least a dozen Linux distros over the years, and >>> this is the first time I've noticed that Python wasn't installed by >>> default. >> >> Arch has a different idea of =E2=80=9Cbase system=E2=80=9D. The base gr= oup contains >> the most crucial packages needed to run an Arch Linux system, and that >> is all. > > That's true of Gentoo as well, but it includes Python. Because Portage is written in Python. Otherwise Gentoo would probably omit it from the base system as well.