Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'installed.': 0.07; 'subject:installation': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'default.': 0.09; 'themselves,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'afaik.': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'so.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'aug': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'included': 0.31; 'install,': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'guess': 0.33; 'noticed': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'depends': 0.38; 'needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'system.': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'from:charset:utf-8': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'url:0': 0.67; '8bit%:43': 0.74; '9:02': 0.84; 'rebert': 0.84; 'subject:base': 0.84; 'crucial': 0.91; 'dozen': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fVCFleVMrhMv7OgclvD0+T2SSnMvxNFzFY3bGeF924Q=; b=XjoJCCzA5vxubguxvGmtGGz03Rl15/O5PZ1SN60ATGVgAXsm7khfw/wPbbGF3f9H5J Se2SsJg+Z/ylTfsk5qhKTEGe4Zl3m78e6kmliDV1tvTgowu4Ax99Gm5rx+XXC5k3+OoF dfAWXfX/I/A3kQEwKNW13FuhKuquqxuV4q+B7c689cpTX78HgYxbbiRMLJJMS/8XFsfe 6rVHNCvpVqBckk6TqkCOnDXgSfvC6RzIOMCpeObtgeU5o+A6dMb3bQN1i9o7Np6ZLnZK 9FElh2yEY0Bgnu3QpcAJY09QoeAzyz2wsRnZ2Ah9xzvNg1XaCc3qrNq1P/w36p4P7SoM j8cQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.67.51 with SMTP id k19mr37657324igt.39.1407837627405; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:00:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:00:27 +0200 Subject: Re: Linux distros w/o Python in "base" installation From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407837630 news.xs4all.nl 2885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36588 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76108 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Grant Edwards wr= ote: > I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to > find that Python isn't installed as part of a "base" system. It's > also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to > install, but I'd still pretty surprised it's not there by default. I > guess I've spent too much time with Gentoo, Debian, and RedHat > derivitives which require Python be installed. > > I've probably used at least a dozen Linux distros over the years, and > this is the first time I've noticed that Python wasn't installed by > default. Arch has a different idea of =E2=80=9Cbase system=E2=80=9D. The base group= contains the most crucial packages needed to run an Arch Linux system, and that is all. And you do not need Python to do so. Nevertheless, most people will likely install Python by themselves, or with a package that depends on Python. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: > It would seem that such distros are opting to not be LSB-compliant?: > http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_4.1.0/LSB-Languages/LSB-Languages= /pylocation.html Arch does not really care about LSB, AFAIK. --=20 Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense