Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subsequent': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'attribute': 0.07; 'attributes': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; '-tkc': 0.16; 'attributions': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'given,': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'quoted': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'tend': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'that.': 0.31; 'towards': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'opposed': 0.36; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'establish': 0.61; 'levels': 0.65; 'lean': 0.84; 'points,': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'obligation': 0.91; 'response,': 0.91; 'refuse': 0.93 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:23:10 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Quoting and attribution (was: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python]) In-Reply-To: <53e976cb$0$29890$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <53c9655a$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <368c1e4f-9328-445b-9876-9f26560a50c2@googlegroups.com> <53ca1e27$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20140801131035.f672ac56af3aa4eda5d36dcd@gmx.net> <20140806144758.f5817ee60d0e98ff30172a2a@gmx.net> <53e2f338$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20140811110843.a314bb1b78cda13d26844ab5@gmx.net> <53e95b96$0$30002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53e976cb$0$29890$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Importance: low X-Priority: 4 (Low) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407810278 news.xs4all.nl 2877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45713 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76096 On 2014-08-12 02:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> It is rude to deliberately refuse to give attributes > > > > While I find this true for first-level attribution, I feel far > > less obligation to attribute additional levels (and the verbosity > > they entail). > > I cannot disagree with that. I consider that the first-level > attribution MUST be given, second-level SHOULD be given, and third- > and subsequent levels MAY be given > > With one proviso: if you respond *directly* to something quoted at > the Nth-level, for any N, (as opposed to merely leaving it in to > establish context), then you MUST given an attribution. For these case, I tend to do it interlinearly with my response, e.g. "while you have some good points, I still lean towards Terry's recommendation to frobniculate the hammerjammer" rather than have a long list of attributions at the top of the email. -tkc