Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'value,': 0.04; 'subsequent': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'rfc': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '(just': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'given,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'properly': 0.19; 'aug': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'beginning': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'easy': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'levels': 0.65; 'carefully': 0.74; 'that),': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=izlWiISQ7tcz3BhRwH1F+N8DEJ3tGwcQx/vwNo20F5s=; b=Q5kljvO7xyufnmmOUW0P9k6O27aocjZjSFK6xCqvfa1FczRoCRBNupJRZDVG6xrgQd zT2ln2VGKsAayEmJ1zXVexwvPIShxKRu+tKMY6xYHOQU/IX2/D7NU53m0zlwbhsZvuWf GZpmeZj4u67Y7loRnaTCRbYP6O2Bp66236ldafIWI+EHl09DxNfoBcYG5D8BBaYD5xoP 0R+/aa0wi9jQ7TdOjBH4pZlKAtorKAXr9ovmWHKO9XM1m/8V5MFLeK5HKNRn4tu/+Va+ UaQ7TohbKy80hvIPiz8idYA6rj1w5dq3ZVnopeKsZHh20Pt2ClpxLVpIP+IMYVcVavNW 5jTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.118.7 with SMTP id fo7mr37309363icc.3.1407809594973; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:13:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53e976cb$0$29890$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <53c9655a$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <368c1e4f-9328-445b-9876-9f26560a50c2@googlegroups.com> <53ca1e27$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20140801131035.f672ac56af3aa4eda5d36dcd@gmx.net> <20140806144758.f5817ee60d0e98ff30172a2a@gmx.net> <53e2f338$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20140811110843.a314bb1b78cda13d26844ab5@gmx.net> <53e95b96$0$30002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53e976cb$0$29890$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:13:14 +1000 Subject: Re: Quoting and attribution (was: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python]) From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407809604 news.xs4all.nl 2877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42875 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:76095 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I cannot disagree with that. I consider that the first-level attribution > MUST be given, second-level SHOULD be given, and third- and subsequent > levels MAY be given, where MUST/SHOULD/MAY have their conventional > meanings from RFC 2119. > > https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt That's fair. It's also very easy to give first-level attribution (just set your client up properly and that's that), while giving second-level means carefully retaining it from upstream. If it's easy (if you're quoting the beginning of the quote), then it's still of value, but it's not as important as first-level. ChrisA