Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Mark Lawrence Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: static variables Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 13:48:05 +0000 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <565cf163$0$1612$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565e4329$0$1612$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565e4861$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565ec669$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565eee1f$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565EF517.3060508@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de fhES4jrLIWKFoPzmbrT7aQgrlQMoTRsBKQNrajRRtALA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'preference': 0.05; 'so?': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'throws': 0.09; 'ignore': 0.14; 'wed,': 0.15; 'argument': 0.15; 'feedback.': 0.15; 'argument.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'should.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'thanks.': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'arguments': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'decide': 0.23; 'bit': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'consistent': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'rest': 0.26; 'points': 0.27; 'complain': 0.29; 'consistency': 0.29; 'comments': 0.30; 'too.': 0.30; 'somebody': 0.30; 'post': 0.31; 'non': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'clear': 0.35; 'comment': 0.35; 'instead': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'expect': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'enough': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'high': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'show': 0.62; 'here.': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'making': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'times': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'talking': 0.67; 'us,': 0.69; 'advantages': 0.72; 'sound': 0.72; "d'aprano:": 0.84; 'offline,': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'selective': 0.84; 'suits': 0.84; 'superiority': 0.84; 'approach.': 0.91; 'seriously,': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.236.181 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 In-Reply-To: <565EF517.3060508@rece.vub.ac.be> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:99884 On 02/12/2015 13:41, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 02-12-15 om 14:11 schreef Steven D'Aprano: >> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:09 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> >>> If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, then you better should. >>> If you use an argument when it suits you and ignore it when it doesn't >>> you are showing you don't really have an argument. You are just showing >>> your preference and making it sound like an argument. >> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." > > So? That doesn't show that we are talking about a foolish consistency here. > > This pseudo kind of arguing happens a lot on this list. A lot of the times > one just throws out some proverb as if it is at all clear that the proverb > applies. > > Somebody points out an inconsistency and out comes the above proverb, without > much arguments that this inconsisty has advantages over a more consistent > approach. > >> Thank you for your feedback. If you ever decide to post here to make >> constructive comments or to help others, instead of just flaunting your >> imagined superiority and whinging and moaning about the rest of us, then >> I'll start to take your arguments seriously too. > > Oh come of your high horse. If people use arguments in a selective way, > I can point that out. If you selectively apply an argument so you ignore > the counter arguments when it suits you, that is not a constructive comment > either and you can expect people to point out when that first argument can > be used against you in the same way. > > Then going on to complain about non constructive comments seems a bit > disingenous. > Would the pair of you, Antoon and Steven, be kind enough to take your bickering offline, thanks. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence