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From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> wrote:
> As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on the
> bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them in
> responses? I think that's why we never get any followup on "newbie
> problem" questions (especially the crt dll thing and the modify remove
> repair thing). A couple other lists I'm on do this and it works well. I
> think most of the people who have objections to CC-ing are annoyed when
> they *receive* messages CC'd *to them*, rather than objecting on
> principle to doing it in reply to other people who aren't subscribed.

I'd rather insist that people actually join the community. It's too
hard to know when to keep cc'ing someone in.

ChrisA