Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Torrie Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:11:17 -0700 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de tOjkinqyy8j6v4HZ6ZNHhAkPcGsbdlkkmkLmo7OtRHSg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'guido': 0.05; 'python3': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'argument,': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; '*only*': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'jobs.': 0.16; 'mainstream': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'community,': 0.18; 'python?': 0.18; 'leave': 0.23; "python's": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'moved': 0.27; 'fine': 0.28; 'base,': 0.29; 'culture,': 0.29; 'etc).': 0.29; 'hacker': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'up.': 0.32; 'says': 0.32; 'google,': 0.32; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'besides': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'johnson': 0.37; 'leader': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'doing': 0.38; 'stuff': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'well.': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'decision': 0.61; 'success': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'making': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'hired': 0.66; 'fact,': 0.67; 'jobs': 0.67; 'steady': 0.72; 'suited': 0.72; 'sounds': 0.76; 'conclude': 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; 'fired': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93; 'factors': 0.97 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101659 On 01/13/2016 06:02 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > In fact, in the years before Python3 arrived, it had enjoyed > a steady ascension from obscurity into mainstream hacker > culture, but now, all that remains is a fractured community, > a fractured code base, and a leader who lost his cushy job > at Google -- of which i think Python3 is directly > responsible. Think about it: if they hired him *BECAUSE* of > Python's success then we can *ONLY* conclude they fired him > for mismanaging it. Hmm, so Guido moved to Dropbox because Google fired him? Interesting revisionist history there. I can find zero evidence to support your assertion, so we can *ONLY* conclude that you are making stuff up. Dishonesty is a harsh accusation, but when one makes up stuff to support one's argument, is that not lying? Besides that, people leave good jobs all the time for other more challenging jobs. Who says it was cushy? Cushy because Google paid him to work on Python? Sounds like the move to Dropbox suited him just fine and he and Python are both doing well. I'm sure there were contributing factors to his decision to leave Google, like Google's NIH syndrome (golang, dart, etc). Things happen.