Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.197 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.66; '*S*': 0.06; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:method': 0.09; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'syntactic': 0.16; 'load': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'returned': 0.30; 'writes:': 0.31; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'name': 0.63; 'refer': 0.63; 'visit': 0.64; 'provide': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; '8bit%:43': 0.74; '8bit%:45': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:Making': 0.84; 'cognitive': 0.91; 'whereas': 0.91; 'room,': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Making every no-arg method a property? Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:49:06 +1000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IRzyU0op4fnFCfW069r/lQq8hTk= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407282563 news.xs4all.nl 2912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40615 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75772 Christian Calderon writes: > I like that in ruby I don't have to type parenthesis at the end of > each function call if I don't need to provide extra arguments. Whereas I like the opposite: there is a clear syntactic distinction between “get the value of ‘foo.bar.baz’” versus “get the value returned when calling ‘foo.bar.baz’”. Having the same name sometimes refer to “get this as a value” and other times “call this as a function and get the return value” imposes a cognitive load on the reader, IMO an unnecessary one. -- \ “If this is your first visit to the USSR, you are welcome to | `\ it.” —hotel room, Moscow | _o__) | Ben Finney