Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.044 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'booth': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'aug': 0.22; 'shell': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'versions': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'worked': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'largely': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:]': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'heard': 0.39; 'visual': 0.39; 'free': 0.61; '(that': 0.65; 'kept': 0.65; 'low': 0.83 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=shRtOAtM8BCZoJC7gIS0kHFmC135NOzhIwZpwomG0Tw=; b=T9o8QAsGyDRB3LiR0XRz9w+NNfhcYCobubrbihDlwcTA4nef8d+2CiwDlVL52gK4zW t7EJBFmeHnDggj4RCKSOk44/007p4+AjvfsRuTnWTX7qRixdPEvDxx6Q29mS0PE7/sgG Cw09v9O287tMh6hsuOt2sfb7+iEgqP/29WulnveJszatY+Zeht7Zd5hpy7vlU6LCIbgI 6E20jjpAuJhR6oK6Rlqg9cmiqb2F6aPmHciCgpnPp98fPPMJs/1Y+LWtpjnE51cY/kXq sk0WXv8GvtnmHHcJ0p/3nSsV3pcdV0t4Rs0xssO7GjAbmJbJp18Wi0lNKTtcg2rYUTJR GX2A== X-Received: by 10.194.60.110 with SMTP id g14mr9819124wjr.101.1407274132207; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:28:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <87zjga4j4v.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c57bae$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <53c9655a$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <368c1e4f-9328-445b-9876-9f26560a50c2@googlegroups.com> <53ca1e27$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53e10b47$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: TP Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:28:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] To: duncan.booth@suttoncourtenay.org.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba97be6c0807404ffe88a6a Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407274139 news.xs4all.nl 2963 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52389 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75759 --047d7ba97be6c0807404ffe88a6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Duncan Booth wrote: > So far they seem to have kept a pretty low profile; I suspect largely > because until recently PTVS only worked with the pay versions of Visual > Studio. > Not true. When it didn't work with the free express versions of VS, it worked with the free Visual Studio Shell (that people have also not heard about :) So there has always been some free way of running PTVS. --047d7ba97be6c0807404ffe88a6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@inv= alid.invalid> wrote:
So far they seem to have kept a pretty low profile; I suspect = largely
because until recently PTVS only worked with the pay versions of Visual
Studio.

Not true. When it didn't work with the free express ver= sions of VS, it worked with the free Visual Studio Shell (that people have = also not heard about :) So there has always been some free way of running P= TVS.
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