Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '"this': 0.03; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'excluding': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subset': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'way:': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'bug,': 0.16; 'excluded': 0.16; 'importerror': 0.16; 'importerror,': 0.16; 'letting': 0.16; 'modules.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'weird': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'server,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; 'import': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'wondering': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'entirely': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'skip:> 10': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'gone': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'soon': 0.63; 'carefully': 0.74; 'browser.': 0.78; 'cuts': 0.84; 'them)': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: CodeSkulptor Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:39:22 +0200 Organization: None References: <53dee1e2$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5gstt9lf3ui5r6novjof9k0mnim3rqqlhl@4ax.com> <53def7fe$0$29974$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bdb6f6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.11.5 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407155986 news.xs4all.nl 2893 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53895 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75686 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >>>>>I think it's not a bug, but a restriction; since it's letting you run >>>>>code on their server, and since Python sandboxing is a hard problem, >>>>>CodeSkulptor cuts down the available modules. From the docs: >>>>> >>>>>http://www.codeskulptor.org/docs.html#tabs-Python >> >> Excluding datetime seems rather extreme to me. > > By the look of their docs, they've actually gone the other way: it's > not that they've excluded datetime, but that they've carefully vetted > a specific set of modules (and maybe not all functionality in them) > and that's all they support. In any case, I think that as soon as you > hit an ImportError on the sandbox, you should go and download Python > for your desktop and start working there. > > (Idea, for anyone who runs a sandbox like that: Enumerate all packages > and modules in the stdlib, and create a little stub for each of them. > "import blahblah" will still produce ImportError, but "import > datetime" could report back "This interpreter is working with a small > subset of the Python standard library" rather than leaving us > wondering if there was some weird copy/paste error in the import line. > And yes, I did test for that.) All nice and dandy, but the site seems to use a Python implementation entirely written in javascript: http://www.skulpt.org/ It's not a sandbox on the server, the code runs in your browser.