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Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters

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On 2014.08.04 04:46, Glenn Linderman wrote:
> How does one "directly run" another application using ConEmu? That wasn't clear
> from what I found to read. It sounded like you run ConEmu, run one or more
> shells within it, and launch programs from those shells? And so it was also
> unclear if a program launched from some batch file would have to have the batch
> file launched from ConEmu, also. Or does ConEmu grab the execution association
> for batch files to make that work more automatically?
When you open a new console, the dialog will ask you to supply a path to an
executable you want to run. Any arbitrary CLI application will work. I don't
understand your question about batch files. If you mean to ask if ConEmu will
snatch a console opened by executing a batch file outside of ConEmu, yes, it
can do that. I highly suggest actually using the program and doing some tests
of your own to see how it works.

>> ConEmu can use any arbitrary font available on the system. As I have
>> said, I have been able to display Unicode output on it from an application
>> written in Python. No mojibake, no replacement characters, just the exact
>> characters one would expect.
>> I do not know the internals of ConEmu and how it interacts with conhost and
>> whatever else, but I have not found a need to since it has just worked for me.
> So you may not know the internals of ConEmu, but I presume you know the
> internals of your Python applications. What encodings do you use for stdout for
> those applications? Do you set up the Python environment variables that specify
> some particular encoding, in the ConEmu environment (or does it)? Because the
> default Python IO encoding in Windows seems to be obtained from the configured
> code page.
I use UTF-8. Open the Python interpreter directly in ConEmu and see what you get.

> Of course the biggest problem with much free and open source software is the
> documentation; I wasn't able to find specific answers to all my questions by
> reading the ConEmu wiki. Maybe some of it would be clearer if I installed it,
> and your "just worked" comment is certainly encouraging me to "just try it",
> but while trying it may help me figure it out, adding another package to
> separately install for my users gives more complexity. See if you can push me
> over the edge :)
It certainly would make things much clearer if you were to actually use the
program. Documentation tends to assume (and reasonably so, IMO) that you intend
to do some hands-on learning.
I can give no advice on deploying this to your users other than to say ConEmu
works well as a tool for command line power users on Windows, but does not
provide much ROI when it is simply an implementation detail for a single
program. If you want to save your users the hassle, I would definitely
recommend a graphical environment. If I had realized that you intended your
application to be widely deployed, I would have simply recommended that from
the start.

On a side note, you would have run into similar issues on *nix systems where a
significant amount of your users would be using the "C" locale and have no idea
what it is, why it causes them problems, or how to change it.

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cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-04 00:52 +0200
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 09:08 +1000
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-04 22:35 +0200
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-08-04 00:20 +0100
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2014-08-03 18:25 -0500
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-08-04 00:29 +0100
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 09:39 +1000
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 10:14 +1000
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-03 17:17 -0700
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-04 01:47 -0700
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-03 21:14 -0700
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2014-08-04 00:06 -0500
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-04 04:39 -0400
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-04 17:00 +0200
      Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-08-04 17:43 +0200
        Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-04 18:48 +0200
          Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 03:06 +1000
            Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-04 19:22 +0200
              Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-04 15:43 -0400
      Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-04 15:17 -0400
        Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-04 22:24 +0200
          Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 04:51 +0400
            Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-05 00:38 -0700
            Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-05 11:39 +0200
      Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 06:11 +1000
      Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters giacomo boffi <g@boffi.net> - 2014-08-04 22:53 +0200
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 10:46 +0200
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-04 02:46 -0700
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-04 02:53 -0700
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-08-04 12:24 +0200
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2014-08-04 05:33 -0500
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-04 11:04 -0700
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-08-04 11:15 -0700
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-04 19:30 +0000
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-04 15:25 -0400
  Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2014-08-05 20:26 +0000
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-05 20:41 +0000
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Wiktor <look@signature.invalid> - 2014-08-06 00:16 +0200
      Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2014-08-06 18:27 +0000
    Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-05 23:30 -0700

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