Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'desired.': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'polish': 0.09; 'subject:characters': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'mostly': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '(there': 0.16; 'interpreter,': 0.16; 'outdated': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'surprising': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'drawing': 0.19; 'aug': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'documented': 0.24; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'included': 0.31; 'font': 0.31; 'subject:some': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'are:': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'so,': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'commands': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'from:charset:utf-8': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '8bit%:100': 0.72; 'capital': 0.73; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'consolas': 0.84; 'fonts': 0.84; 'glenn': 0.84; 'idiot': 0.84; 'skip:\xc4 10': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8BCvX/oAKjuBXHY7WykDT7xGBnGEZAyTXOBugwAVwHY=; b=GDPpJhz3TjuB1ECdGIK2ZkDYCmj1nTf4CczQWPZkFlMKvEmY4W0boDpLGUI+YNvS0m PL1B9XRnzCX7UH03LlNmo/JjlemK29psAigZtysFiVM+U5AjWG+PtvDwkFSa4B4AoxOc JV9qu4+1mfCyECtUItVlV10Ne8LgWH5zPOhLRsUKdMRnvacpZqcz+M0I1SVg/f5J10AC ENfqfkTaeh+54yNoIbEK6EClJkpTTQkDmsEGEzsD+sx6zowiR8Yo3T9dC1PTDzgeEaRH FHOuqojf8Oq1FW7yeaX0sUeWpvTwBikSQe0YZRqz413YWQ9NAEB4+jTqPmsg5m9XgwGq lpHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.154.145 with SMTP id le17mr30367465icc.20.1407142015272; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 01:46:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53DED137.7080907@g.nevcal.com> References: <53DEC4F5.8090805@my.hennepintech.edu> <53DED137.7080907@g.nevcal.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:46:55 +0200 Subject: Re: cmd.exe on WIndows - problem with displaying some Unicode characters From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= To: Glenn Linderman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407142023 news.xs4all.nl 2969 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55658 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75673 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Glenn Linderman wro= te: > For this OP problem, it is mostly a matter of finding a fixed-width font > that supports the box drawing characters and the Polish characters that a= re > desired. Lucida Console has a fair repertoire, and Consolas has a fair > repertoire, in the fixed-width font arena. There may be others, documente= d > on Polish language web sites that I wouldn't know about, and I don't know > enough Polish to be sure those I mentioned suffice. Not really. We haven=E2=80=99t had to play the =E2=80=9Ccustom fonts for o= ur language=E2=80=9D game for quite some time. Consolas and Lucida Console wo= rk just fine for Polish (though Consolas sometimes hiccups on capital characters in some environments). The characters are: =C4=84=C4=86=C4=98=C5=81=C3=93=C5=83=C5=9A=C5=B9=C5=BB =C4=85=C4=87=C4=99=C5=82=C3=B3=C5=84=C5=9B=C5=BA=C5=BC Most fonts =E2=80=94 especially the ones included with modern OSes =E2=80= =94 support all 18 of them. So, this is a non-issue. The real issue is Windows being an idiot when it comes to CLI, which is oh so surprising to everyone who had to work with it =E2=80=94 considering the choice of the outdated and quirky cmd.exe interpreter, or PowerShell, which has ultra-verbose human-unfriendly commands and works in the same cmd.exe window (there is a thing named PowerShell ISE, which circumvents cmd.exe; I have no idea whether all the Unicode issues apply to that, too) --=20 Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense